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| Threat to Railtours 15/01/2013 at 16:49 #40596 | |
Razzabazza123
91 posts |
I had this email today. I wondered if its true. Hi all, have you heard of the threat to railtours and our heritage traction. The gist of is the Office Rail Regulation ORR are proposing of removing the maximum £5,000 cap on delays caused by charters (rail tours), this has the potential to distroy the charter market as who could take the risk. The ORR want the charter operators to take up insurance to cover any fines. However a locomotive owner has already stated that this is higly unlikely to succed as insurance companies don't cover wear and tare, and what else do loco's and stock fail with. we'll get this beat with everyone's help, Note Further to my previous posting regarding threats to our mainline heritage traction. 100,000 signatures mean that it stands a chance of being discussed by parliament. We need to put aside our differences and bury any axes, work together and be as constructive as we can be. Please sign this online petition to keep steam, heritage diesels & electrics and other railtours running in the UK in future. https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/44358 There is a Facebook group dedicated to opposing this change, called;- Back British Railway Heritage http://www.facebook.com/groups/451797041540159/ We want to see and hear our heritage fleet all over what remains of our network, am I right? Log in to reply |
| Threat to Railtours 15/01/2013 at 17:26 #40597 | |
jc92
3690 posts |
" said:In the interests of fairness, the ORR has also suggested (and had the support of a number of senior members from several railtour providers) an increased open access charge for each train provided, which would cover any and all penalties incurred by NR throughout the year. I do agree it would be sad to see railtours disapear, but the fact is these penalty charges are paid by NR which is funded by...you guessed it, the UK tax payer. I actually agree with the idea to reform the charge system with network rail imposing an increased charge as "insurance". Steam dreams have already stated they agree reform is required, and are happy to pay increased access charges. There is a very informative article in steam railway which covers the subject. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Forest Pines |
| Threat to Railtours 15/01/2013 at 17:42 #40598 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
275 posts |
Why should Network Rail have to pay taxpayers money for fines for delays they didn't cause?
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| Threat to Railtours 15/01/2013 at 18:59 #40602 | |
Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
Much I like to see the heritage locos out and about and travel behind them I think the ORR is probably right in principle. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Threat to Railtours 17/01/2013 at 19:55 #40644 | |
pedroathome
916 posts |
Shame we cant see a regular steam service operated by a TOC on some quieter lines with lower running speeds. Would probably bring more people onto those lines, increase passenger numbers and increase profit
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| Threat to Railtours 17/01/2013 at 20:22 #40647 | |
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Danny252
1461 posts |
Those are called "heritage railways", are they not? I can't see how the price would work out at all - railtour prices are ridiculous as it is already, and trying to have a reliable running fleet is enough of an issue already for preserved lines, never mind when you're getting fined for delays on your regular service. The few heritage lines that are run as for-profit companies are mainly reliant on DMU haulage for money reasons, I believe.
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| Threat to Railtours 17/01/2013 at 20:47 #40648 | |
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Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
When BR brought D200 out of storage for the S&C a while back after it was saved that seemed to do quite well. And the Fort William Mallaig summer steam is very popular (not quite sure who runs that). Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Threat to Railtours 17/01/2013 at 21:06 #40650 | |
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Danny252
1461 posts |
" said:When BR brought D200 out of storage for the S&C a while back after it was saved that seemed to do quite well. And the Fort William Mallaig summer steam is very popular (not quite sure who runs that).There's also the Shakespeare Express and I think there's something down south, too - but I doubt those are actually priced the same as the "normal" trains! Last edited: 17/01/2013 at 21:07 by Danny252 Log in to reply |
| Threat to Railtours 17/01/2013 at 21:42 #40652 | |
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sloppyjag
480 posts |
There's also the North Yorkshire Moors Railway which runs trains regularly over NR metals between Grosmont and Whitby. There's talk of the 2nd platform being reopened at Whitby to allow them to run more trains.
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