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Unusual routes. 18/12/2012 at 00:06 #39319
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The best unusual diversion route I've managed was when Darlington was closed some time in the late 90s - York to Durham via Yarm, rejoining the ECML at Ferryhill. I've also done the south side of the loop at Newcastle, to correct a reversed formation.
Probably the early 1990s when Tyneside IECC was taking over the signalling at Darlington. While that was happening I spent one Friday night at Hartlepool where mail usually unloaded at Darlington (for Darlington, Middlesbrough and surrounding areas) found a new home. An opportunity I missed during that resignalling was the last use of the Leamside line as a diversion route.

The south side loop at Newcastle is a regular move in both directions when formations are out of kilter.

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Unusual routes. 01/01/2013 at 21:40 #39944
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There used to be a weekly service from Stockport to Stalybridge via Reddish South worked by Cl.101 DMU. Last time I took that route was when I went train spotting at Guide Bridge in 1980 prior to the Woodhead line closing & that service ran hourly from Stockport out of the north end bay platform.
It stopped after TPE services were diverted from Manchester Vic to Piccadilly at the 1989 timetable change, which pretty much made it redundant (it had provided a useful means of transferring between the trans-Pennine main line and the routes from Picc to Crewe & Stoke-on-Trent without the need to change stations in Manchester) . It initially was reduced to something like three in one direction and two the other every weekday for the first year, but was then cut back to the minimum "parliamentary" level of once a week, one way only in 1991. It ran on a Saturday morning for many years, except for a spell in 2005 when weekend engineering work in the Stockport area shut the main line between there & Slade Lane for several months. As a result, for that summer it was altered to run on a Friday afternoon in the opposite direction! Still runs today, but on a Friday morning and normally uses a 142 that otherwise runs ECS the rest of the week from Stockport to Newton Heath.

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Unusual routes. 01/01/2013 at 22:44 #39948
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I did that parly last week - it's booked 142 + 150 as a stock move back to Newton Heath from Manchester Piccadilly. It runs ECS via that route Mon-Thurs too. Of note, since December it runs at 1013 (think it was 0922 before), so is now within the time restrictions of the various rovers etc which cover it.

There seemed to be some regulars who travel on it most weeks too!

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Unusual routes. 02/01/2013 at 10:05 #39968
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Geoff - I missed those! They are repeating this coming Easter in 2013 if your interested. Routes will be:

- HST's diverted via Banbury again and down the Chilterns
- The Salisbury route will repeat but this time they will now go via Wimbledon rather than the Richmond/Windsor route. There is talk of using Platforms 20/21 too but I don't know if this will happen



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James,

if you want them I got timings for all the trains via Banbury, 1Kxx all stations Rdg-Wsb & out of London Waterloo. At Waterloo FGW are currently showing to use Platform 11 on TRUST. PM me your email if interested.

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Unusual routes. 28/01/2013 at 19:00 #40937
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I did the Inverness-Thurso route once, many years ago, a few months before loco-hauled services ended. Nothing odd there - except our arrival back at Inverness.
Rather than enter platforms 6-7, the train (5 or 6 coaches, hauled by 37 as was usual back then, with RETB fitted locos required of course) passed over the chord line onto the Highland main line, which of course goes right through the middle of Inverness depot. It then stopped, and was propelled back into the platform (no. 3 IIRC) for some distance, under shunt signals, with the guard hanging out of the rearmost window and indicating the movement to the driver with his bardic as the whole move is around a gentle curve. I have to say that we were late, and they did not hang about - quite a breeze hanging out of the window...
I was always a bit bemused as to whether this was a legitimate move according to the rule book or local appendices. I can't imagine it being allowed now without at least a DBSO or similar on the back end! I wonder if anyone knows if that was the standard move for the last one into Inverness from the North?

As an aside, this was achieved as a Sheffield-Thurso return for £10 one February with my Young Person's Railcard.
Did anyone else use those amazing offers of "anywhere for £10 - not on Fridays" to do silly trips? I managed to get the ECML Nightrider, Aberdeen-Inverness, down to Thurso & back, seats on the Highland Sleeper (dividing at Perth I think), up to Carlisle, over the S&C to Leeds, and a class 40 on the old Leeds-Nottingham back to Sheffield. Not bad for £10, even nearly 25 years ago. The photos I took are buried somewhere in my collection...

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Unusual routes. 28/01/2013 at 21:19 #40942
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Standard practice at the time which allowed easy access to the sleeper on that side of the station - it was a fair old hike between the two sides of the station.

Whether it would be allowed today? No idea but it was pretty common back then, e.g. Carstairs portions. (Actually it still does occur there with passengers onboard with the lowland Caledonian Sleeper.)

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Unusual routes. 28/01/2013 at 21:41 #40944
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I believe that 1 or 2 of the London Overground services per day are running from Highbury and Islington - Battersea Park instead of Clapham Junction in order to retain route knowledge.

I understand these are parliamentary trains to avoid closing some of the curves and junctions between Wandsworth Road and Battersea Park now that Southern’s South London Line services have had to be withdrawn (Southeastern services do not call at Battersea Park – they use an alternative route between Wandsworth Road (where they do not stop) and Victoria).
It is new route knowledge for the LOROL drivers. I think Southern are running very few empties this way to retain their route knowledge. And yes, it's the standard "cheaper to run a few services than to close the line to passenger services"; this being the Up & Down Atlantic lines from Factory Junction to Battersea Park.

I did hear a rumour that the a few SouthEastern services may have begun stopping at Wandsworth Road and Clapham High Street to get some service to Victoria. Need to confirm this though. Probably peak flow only.

And regarding the LOROL East London Line services:
One in the morning: Empties to Battersea Park, Passenger service from BP to the ELL. (06:20 ish depart BP)
One in the evening: Passenger service from the ELL to BP and Empties back. (23:00 ish arrive BP)
This indeed appears to be the case.

2B90 18:18 Sevenoaks to London Victoria (cheers OpenTrainTimes.com).

On the LOROL matter, TRC666 called me the other day reporting that he had done one of those trains from Battersea Park to, I think, Highbury & Islington, or somewhere over on or towards the ELL.

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Unusual routes. 30/01/2013 at 13:37 #40982
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Not sure whether this counts or not, but it's very unusual to be able to catch a train to Hertford North on a Sunday. However, on odd occasion this is possible, when the usual rail replacement bus service is itself replaced by a train! ;)
No idea when that happened but I know that until further notice, buses replace trains between Stevenage and Hertford North southbound only/Gordon Hill to Alexandra Palace southbound only.

There is a hourly service from Kings Cross to Stevenage via Hertford and a hourly shuttle service between Hertford North and Gordon Hill.

For rare routes how about Leicester to Norwich via Peterborough, Ely on a HST

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