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| The £1000 return 30/11/2009 at 15:26 #328 | |
postal
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Just got the latest Railway Magazine where there is a bit of discussion about the £1000 fare (1st class return Newquay - Kyle of Lochalsh). One thing I hadn't twigged was that a 7-Day All Line First Class Railrover is only £650. There are lots of other nonsenses and foibles exposed as well which all go to show that our current system is not fit for purpose if the aim is to supply an efficient and cost-effective system (for both supplier and purchaser). “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 30/11/2009 at 15:26 #4701 | |
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postal
5264 posts |
Just got the latest Railway Magazine where there is a bit of discussion about the £1000 fare (1st class return Newquay - Kyle of Lochalsh). One thing I hadn't twigged was that a 7-Day All Line First Class Railrover is only £650. There are lots of other nonsenses and foibles exposed as well which all go to show that our current system is not fit for purpose if the aim is to supply an efficient and cost-effective system (for both supplier and purchaser). “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 30/11/2009 at 22:11 #4710 | |
Peter Bennet
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Just tried to look it up on National Rails' web site and all it gives me is a Std Anytime return of £398 or two 1st singles for £374.50 out and £438 back. Wick to Penzance is £749.00 1st anytime return. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 30/11/2009 at 22:15 #4711 | |
jedmiller
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Straight from the National Fares Manual (NFM03): Newquay to Kyle of Lochalsh FOR - ANYTIME 1R CC 00000 - ANY PERMITTED 1 Adult @£ 1002.00 = £ 1002.00 __________ £ 1002.00 First Class Return Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 30/11/2009 at 22:28 #4712 | |
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Signaller@Amsterdam
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Long live the state owned railways... National rail Day rover entire network 1st class for 50,- Euro I believe. With bus, tram and Metro services 10% more. Chears.... Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 01/12/2009 at 06:50 #4714 | |
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Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
Sorry, it would help if I picked the right station! As regards Dutch State railways, to what extent is that subsidised by the taxpayer? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 01/12/2009 at 09:32 #4719 | |
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GoochyB
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When the BBC website first ran the story I used the comment form to point out that an all line rover was much cheaper and potentially gave much more travel (it didn't actually got posted to the article though!) Even a 14-day First Class rover is 'only' £990. Brian Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 02/12/2009 at 08:33 #4740 | |
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Signaller@Amsterdam
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Hi Peter, I did a search and was surprised by the results. The subsidy is ZERO percent. Ill explain: Young trainfleet and fleet commonality is the key to run a low cost railway. With over 300 IRM doubledeckers this train fleet has an average age of 4,2 years. SLT- This is a painfull story, but they will (someday) replace the remaining Mat.64 units. SLT is cheap to operate and mantain as most components are identical to the German Br425 series. Older trainseries like ICM get a complete overhaul, resulting in a cheap train to mantain in the long term. - Keep them moving... A train will NEVER stand at a station for more then 15 minutes. (ofcourse thre are some exceptions). - Run a high frequency easy to understand timetable. The timetable repeates itself every hour. A train from A to B will depart from the same platform in 98%. Smart railway system:NO level junctions in it. I am sorry to say, but as a Dutchman I was surprised to see the WCML was build that crappy with all those level junctions and no fly-overs in it. Capacity and speed could heve been increased by 10% if the line would have been build with some decent junctions in it. This does include high speed points. High capacity trains, high frequency service will result in a good demand. The average train is occupied by 70%. This does include ALL trains during the day, of which includes early morning trains and night services. Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 02/12/2009 at 09:15 #4741 | |
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postal
5264 posts |
GoochyB said:When the BBC website first ran the story I used the comment form to point out that an all line rover was much cheaper and potentially gave much more travel (it didn't actually got posted to the article though!)Or £653 with your wrinklies railcard “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 02/12/2009 at 09:19 #4742 | |
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postal
5264 posts |
At least My Lord Adonis now understands that the current fare structures need review. Surprising that when the government own a TOC it is suddenly a matter of importance. Full story at (amongst other places) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8388594.stm “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| The £1000 return 06/01/2010 at 13:07 #5552 | |
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UKTrainMan
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I was just having a bit of a muck around with NFM05 (National Fares Manual 05, the latest version) and enquired about a journey from London Fenchurch Street [FST / 7490] to Rainham (Essex) [RNM / 7454] for 1 adult travelling this coming Saturday and the most expensive fare it offered was; Quote: KFQ - KIDS FOR A QUID :O Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |