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| Technical visit photos 17/07/2013 at 16:35 #47279 | |
GeoffM
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These were all taken with a mobile phone: apologies for the lack of quality. Marylebone station front:  Trains in platform 1 and the wall siding:  North workstation:  South workstation:  Detail view of Princes Risborough and to the north:  Many thanks to GuyH and Greg for arranging such a fantastic visit. :cheer: Post has attachments. Log in to view them. SimSig Boss Last edited: 17/07/2013 at 16:37 by GeoffM Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Steamer, John, Hooverman, moonraker, wellgroomed, Josie, Jezalenko |
| Technical visit photos 17/07/2013 at 17:37 #47283 | |
UKTrainMan
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" said:Many thanks to GuyH and Greg for arranging such a fantastic visit. :cheer:Seconded! :cheer: Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 17/07/2013 at 17:37 by UKTrainMan Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 17/07/2013 at 21:04 #47290 | |
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GeoffM
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Incidentally in the third photo you can just about see the route set through Aylesbury and towards Aylesbury Vale Parkway which, I think, UKTM mentioned somewhere. These routes were set by ARS and demonstrates how fallible the real system is: not only was it poor regulation but it would have resulted in a Mexican stand-off outside Aylesbury Vale Parkway. The signaller put a reminder on the signal outside Aylesbury (ME383) to prevent ARS doing it again once the routes had timed out. IIRC both trains ended up being delayed by a few minutes.
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| Technical visit photos 17/07/2013 at 21:29 #47291 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:Incidentally in the third photo you can just about see the route set through Aylesbury and towards Aylesbury Vale Parkway which, I think, UKTM mentioned somewhere. These routes were set by ARS and demonstrates how fallible the real system is: not only was it poor regulation but it would have resulted in a Mexican stand-off outside Aylesbury Vale Parkway.Here Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: GeoffM |
| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 10:00 #47310 | |
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Josie
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Thanks for these photos - especially number 2, which neatly answers my question about the wall siding 
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| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 10:57 #47315 | |
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clive
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" said:" said:What they said, doubled and trebled.Many thanks to GuyH and Greg for arranging such a fantastic visit. :cheer:Seconded! Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 12:07 #47318 | |
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John
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What does the Patrolling Lockout thingy do? Last edited: 18/07/2013 at 12:24 by John Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 12:28 #47319 | |
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clive
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" said:If I recall correctly, the patrolman gets a key that fits in a trackside box. So if they're patrolling the Up Slow, they phone the box for permission and a release and then use the key. That section of line then gets marked on the screen as unavailable, with automatic reminders on the signals reading into it. When they finish the patrol, they go to the box at the other end of the section and release the lockout. It's sort of an automated possession system. Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 12:41 #47320 | |
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Hooverman
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What does the Patrolling Lockout thingy do? On our ones at TBASC from Preston Park to Balcombe Tunnel Junction, they work by locking out the bi-direction signalling (simbids in our case) when they are activated. We press a button for the section concerned which then flashes, this is idicated to the patrolman in their trackside location cabinet. They then turn their key in the lockout device. Our idication then goes steady as does theirs. Then that's our bi-ditectional signalling locked out until they've either walked throughh the section or have returned back to the same one. Last edited: 18/07/2013 at 12:43 by Hooverman Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 12:43 #47321 | |
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John
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Thanks Clive. I wonder if, in this case, it's used for patrolling Saunderton Tunnel? Found this if it's of any interest to anyone? http://www.rgsonline.co.uk/Railway_Group_Standards/Traffic%20Operation%20and%20Management/Railway%20Group%20Standards/GKRT0030%20Iss%201.pdf Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 16:39 #47328 | |
Andrew G
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Just out of interest did the group also visit Chiltern Control? I do recall seeing mention of the possibility of visiting more than one operational location at the same site.
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| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 17:06 #47329 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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The patrolmans lockouts only lock te wrong direction moves. I know they used to be a nightmare to test every year as the S&T did not have keys to it. AndrewG, Chiltern Control is in a glorified portakabin opposite Banbury South Signal Box, not at Marylebone. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Andrew G, John |
| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 17:13 #47330 | |
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TomOF
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What you will actually see on Marylebone is the direction of flow indicators turn red for the routes than can not now be set. The whole ethos is not to shut the line, rather to allow the Patrolman to walk from one end of the section to the other without a train coming up behind him. Normal direction traffic will continue to flow.
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| Technical visit photos 18/07/2013 at 17:37 #47331 | |
andyb0607
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" said:" said:I'll see your trebled and raise you....." said:What they said, doubled and trebled.Many thanks to GuyH and Greg for arranging such a fantastic visit. :cheer:Seconded! Was a fantastic visit. Thanks to all involved. One thing I would say to Guy is - you need to get your marketing dept to change tea bag supplier! Not the best I've had even it it was a freebie! :-) Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 25/07/2013 at 14:01 #47558 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:Just out of interest did the group also visit Chiltern Control? I do recall seeing mention of the possibility of visiting more than one operational location at the same site.Yes, we all did. See the Technical visit report on the Wiki.
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| Technical visit photos 25/07/2013 at 14:45 #47561 | |
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John
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Quote:As a final unexpected surprise, each person received a Chiltern Railways goodybag, too!:cheer: What goodies did you get? Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 25/07/2013 at 14:55 #47564 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:Quote:Just a Chiltern Railway's Mainline 2FOR1 booklet/leaflet in a branded carrier bag.As a final unexpected surprise, each person received a Chiltern Railways goodybag, too!:cheer: What goodies did you get? Oh, and: a car ice scraper; A 'Mainline' teabag; some funky 'Mainline' seeds; a pad of 'Mainline' Postit notes; a 'Mainline' pen; a 'Mainline' mouse mat; and finally a 'Twitter' mug. All in said Chiltern Railways branded carrier bag. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 25/07/2013 at 14:57 by UKTrainMan Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 25/07/2013 at 15:41 #47568 | |
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GeoffM
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" said:AndrewG, Chiltern Control is in a glorified portakabin opposite Banbury South Signal Box, not at Marylebone.Their main Control is at Banbury but they have a daytime Control desk at Marylebone that deals with more local issues. This is the one we saw. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 25/07/2013 at 15:43 #47569 | |
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GeoffM
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" said:Oh, and: a car ice scraper;Initially thought to be something to do with toast (maybe a mass butterer), then thought to be a tile grouting tool. But the ice scraper sounds more plausible, if a little ordinary!
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| Technical visit photos 25/07/2013 at 16:10 #47570 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:" said:That would probably actually be *very* handy! B)Oh, and: a car ice scraper;Initially thought to be something to do with toast (maybe a mass butterer), then thought to be a tile grouting tool. But the ice scraper sounds more plausible, if a little ordinary! :) For the benefit of all (both those perhaps wondering, and those who got one), it's this exact one - but with the added Chiltern Railways branding in the print area. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Technical visit photos 25/07/2013 at 18:28 #47575 | |
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Signalhunter
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I like the idea of a mass toast butterer! :silly:
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| Technical visit photos 26/07/2013 at 06:53 #47587 | |
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maxand
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The wall hanging feature might be good as a memento!
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