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| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 12:03 #51140 | |
Wells
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Good morning all. would like to know how I can get signal numbers on the panel for Exeter, and other sims ive downloaded any help would be great Thankyou Paul Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 12:37 #51146 | |
Steamer
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The only one where you can display numbers on the panel itself is Euston (optional tick box on start-up). However, there are pdf signal number plans available within each simulation's manual, with the exception of West Hampstead and Victoria (I plan to write one for these, but I'll need a few days!) Also, the one for King's Cross is out of date, but I'm working on a new one currently.
"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 09/11/2013 at 12:42 by Steamer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Wells |
| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 12:53 #51149 | |
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AndyG
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You can also see signal nos by a right click on the signal, provided that 'right click cancel route' is UNTICKED under Options (F3) > Control tab.
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| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 13:27 #51151 | |
Splodge
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Plus on the new loader sims you can also use shift + right click and the signal number will be displayed.
There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Wells |
| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 14:05 #51154 | |
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JamesN
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" said:Plus on the new loader sims you can also use shift + right click and the signal number will be displayed.Shift - Right Click inverts the behaviour of the right click setting in options: If "right click cancels routes" is enabled, shift right click brings up the signal menu, and vice versa. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Wells, UKTrainMan |
| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 14:28 #51162 | |
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Wells
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Thankyou to all for your help 
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| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 19:53 #51180 | |
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UKTrainMan
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One tip I can pass on with regards to signal numbers is if you've got a signal where you regularly receive calls from in a particular timetable (e.g.: Southampton; Signal 842 on the run-round line) then add a sticky by the signal with the signal number on it, colour the text of the sticky using one of the two grey colours (or as you please) and colour the background of the sticky black (or, again, as you please).... hey presto!
Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 09/11/2013 at 19:54 by UKTrainMan Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 20:42 #51188 | |
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Wells
82 posts |
can the background of the sim be changed to a different colour all my sim have a black background using windows 7 Paul Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 09/11/2013 at 20:53 #51189 | |
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Steamer
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No.
"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 00:51 #51216 | |
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JamesN
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" said:can the background of the sim be changed to a different colour all my sim have a black backgroundThe background colour can be set by the developer, but I don't know of anyone planning to use this particular feature. Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 08:03 #51224 | |
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maxand
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Although being able to display signal numbers on a panel might help, in practice this would clutter up the screen as SimSig appears to have only one font, so signal numbers would appear excessively large (look at Euston). Their only real use is to help in the creation of signal maps for printout. Besides, the astute signalman who really knows his territory would in theory know the location of the most important signals without needing to refer to a diagram. I've tried memorizing signal numbers and failed miserably. Maybe this is because I don't limit myself to one sim. I like the stickynotes idea but why reinvent the wheel? Displaying signal numbers is really a clumsy solution to the real problem: where is the train? Far more useful would be the ability for SimSig to zoom the View to center on any selected train or signal, just as happens in SoftRail's Train Dispatcher, which has been around since 2006. Is this feature available in real life in British signalling software? Apparently not. I find that a train's last position (using F2) is more useful than confirming a signal - you could waste a lot of time checking one signal after another and not finding the right one. To those who argue that real signallers don't need to jump to a train or signal, I say, make this a feature that can be toggled on or off: ON to help newcomers to a particular sim find their way around, and OFF for those diehards who thrive on the masochism of reality. Last edited: 10/11/2013 at 08:05 by maxand Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 11:38 #51238 | |
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Steamer
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On the Paged simulations, you could go MNU>Train Describer>Locate, and then type in the headcode you were trying to find, and the simulation would jump to the page the describer was on. Could this be implemented on the scrolly format?
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| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 20:53 #51291 | |
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AndyG
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Latest loader sims give "Train NAxx waiting at signal X (Location area)" in the message window.
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| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 21:23 #51296 | |
BarryM
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" said:Latest loader sims give "Train NAxx waiting at signal X (Location area)" in the message window.It only gives you a signal number, no location area. Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 21:37 #51300 | |
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AndyG
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" said:" said:From W Hampstead (Sim loader V4.0.14 + Sim V1.9):-Latest loader sims give "Train NAxx waiting at signal X (Location area)" in the message window.It only gives you a signal number, no location area. 04:46 5V94 waiting at red signal 392 (Farringdon area) 04:46 2T05 waiting at red signal 272 (St.Albans City area) AFAIK that's public version rather than tester version. I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 21:40 #51303 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:" said:You'll get the location if the developer has given that signal a location, and if you run the simulation in easy mode (where available). Case in point from earlier on in my current solo game on West Hampstead:Latest loader sims give "Train NAxx waiting at signal X (Location area)" in the message window.It only gives you a signal number, no location area. Quote: 12:20 7D42 still waiting at red signal 611 (Bedford area)post being composed before 'AndyG' has responded further Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 10/11/2013 at 21:41 by UKTrainMan Reason: adding 'disclaimer' at bottom Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 10/11/2013 at 21:40 #51304 | |
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John
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" said:Latest loader sims give "Train NAxx waiting at signal X (Location area)" in the message window. " said: It only gives you a signal number, no location area. " said: From W Hampstead (Sim loader V4.0.14 + Sim V1.9):- The public version gives signal number and location (or at least it does for me). Log in to reply |
| signal numbers on panel 11/11/2013 at 02:26 #51321 | |
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BarryM
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Unfortunately not available in the older sims.
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| signal numbers on panel 11/11/2013 at 07:58 #51327 | |
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maxand
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Displaying Location Area for a particular signal is certainly an improvement - provided one knows where the area is in the sim! For a non-UK player unfamiliar with a large sim, it could take a great deal of precious time to locate the area. Jumping to the specified train in the View window would still be preferable, and absolves the developer of needing to give a location to every signal. I hope we will see this happen one day.
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| signal numbers on panel 11/11/2013 at 11:07 #51333 | |
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Sacro
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" said:...it could take a great deal of precious time to locate the area.And that's part of the job of becoming a signaller, learning your patch. Log in to reply |