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| ACOA 11/02/2014 at 13:46 #55411 | |
KymriskaDraken
963 posts |
Why do Drivers wait for signals to clear before complaining about an ACOA? They could be sitting at the signal for some minutes but wait for the board to come off before getting on the phone and whinging. Surely in real life the Driver would be straight on the phone? Kev Log in to reply |
| ACOA 11/02/2014 at 14:04 #55413 | |
John
884 posts |
Indeed. The rule book states: Quote: You must tell the signaller immediately, stopping the train speciallyModule S7 7.1 Log in to reply |
| ACOA 11/02/2014 at 16:01 #55417 | |
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AndyG
1842 posts |
I think the SimSig ACoA 'feature' is purely as a penalty to the sigger, insofar as it's just to tie things up longer than just waiting for the signal route to time out (as it was originally). In other words, a mechanism to prevent you gaining an advantage from putting the signal back...a lot of clients in mplay used to be fairly 'liberal' in doing so.
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| ACOA 11/02/2014 at 16:29 #55423 | |
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Noisynoel
989 posts |
Also it reflects the time taken to fill the paperwork out with the driver on the phone
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| ACOA 11/02/2014 at 16:30 #55424 | |
DriverCurran
688 posts |
Ahhhh the joys of a 3185, a joy to behold  Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| ACOA 11/02/2014 at 17:51 #55428 | |
GeoffM
6377 posts |
" said:I think the SimSig ACoA 'feature' is purely as a penalty to the sigger, insofar as it's just to tie things up longer than just waiting for the signal route to time out (as it was originally). In other words, a mechanism to prevent you gaining an advantage from putting the signal back...a lot of clients in mplay used to be fairly 'liberal' in doing so.To clarify slightly, real life drivers will often take a fair amount of time while reporting an adverse change of aspect, so that part is accurate. When it's not reported straight away in SimSig, then yes that is a problem which will be addressed in a future fix. "Penalising" SimSignallers for pulling up without thinking is just a nice side effect. 
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| ACOA 11/02/2014 at 21:01 #55436 | |
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Ron_J
331 posts |
" said:Also it reflects the time taken to fill the paperwork out with the driver on the phoneThis is a popular misconception even amongst signallers. In the real world there is no requirement for the signaller to fill out any paperwork if a signal returns to danger, either while the driver is on the phone or afterwards. The signaller does not need to complete an RT3185 if he can explain the irregularity or it is clearly a right-side failure. See Rule Book module S7, section 7.6 c). Another relevant point is that there is no requirement for a driver to speak with his own control after observing a change of aspect. Unlike with Simsig, the train may proceed as soon as the signaller gives authority. Last edited: 11/02/2014 at 21:03 by Ron_J Log in to reply |