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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 27/04/2013 at 13:02 #44083 | |
Danny252
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" said:" said:And for those of us in the middle, there's no hope at all." said:To a Cockney, Geordie can be just as impenetrable as Jock.They don't Log in to reply |
| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 27/04/2013 at 13:24 #44085 | |
Peter Bennet
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" said:Slave panels are only designed to control individual locking areas owing to data link failures where the signal box is unable to communicate with the localalised locking. They are usually manned by MOM's or LOM's, who do not necissarily have the right competency to be an actual signaller. They have to, at all times, work under the signallers direction from the controlling signal box/Not sure how they managed at KX back in 2006, as we had a FCC service terminating and starting at Finsbury Park. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 27/04/2013 at 17:16 #44093 | |
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Hooverman
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" said:Slave panels are only designed to control individual locking areas owing to data link failures where the signal box is unable to communicate with the localalised locking. They are usually manned by MOM's or LOM's, who do not necissarily have the right competency to be an actual signaller. They have to, at all times, work under the signallers direction from the controlling signal box/That is right as they only show the TDM areas and not the FDM areas. They also have no train discibers or SPT/CSR/GSMR and no direct communication to the neighbouring relay room of any format. All you've got is a direct line back to the controlling panel. We used our slave panels when they commissioned the temporary panels for Panels 1A and 1B and again when the commissioned the new Panels 1A, 1C and 1B (from left to right in that order as you look at them) for the East London Line project. We had Selhurst, Norwood Junction, East Croydon and South Croydon slave panels in use at various times as the the new panels were commissioned. In our case they were manned by signallers from the ASC who had been trained up to operate them. Last edited: 27/04/2013 at 17:17 by Hooverman Log in to reply |
| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 27/04/2013 at 19:11 #44101 | |
pedroathome
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What no one has said about yet though is if there was a fire at Three Bridges, and the amount of disruption that would have caused in comparison
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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 27/04/2013 at 21:51 #44110 | |
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vontrapp
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I was told last night, by a guard, that Stalybridge SB 'conveniently' burnt down- about 4 months ago. A special meeting of RAIB (Railway Arson Involvement Branch) must have taken place!
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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 27/04/2013 at 23:25 #44113 | |
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Firefly
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Quote:We can't use our slave panels in their relay rooms if the ASC has been evacuated as the signaller needs to be at the panel directing all train movements via the telephone. Also as Three Bridges/Crawley/Balcombe Tunnel Junction are direct control from the main panel there is no slave panel for that area.Hmmm, unless it's been returned the slave panel in Selhurst was away being rebuilt to reflect the recent alterations! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Hooverman |
| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 28/04/2013 at 07:09 #44117 | |
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clive
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" said:Some years ago one of the big signal boxes at Clapham Junction - on a gantry over the tracks - caught fire. The signallers only found out when another box phoned to tell them! Log in to reply |
| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 28/04/2013 at 09:46 #44118 | |
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Hooverman
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" said:Quote:It's amazing what you find out. Now that makes me wonder how many of slave panels are correct after the recent alterations that we've had and are going to have to various layouts.We can't use our slave panels in their relay rooms if the ASC has been evacuated as the signaller needs to be at the panel directing all train movements via the telephone. Also as Three Bridges/Crawley/Balcombe Tunnel Junction are direct control from the main panel there is no slave panel for that area.Hmmm, unless it's been returned the slave panel in Selhurst was away being rebuilt to reflect the recent alterations! Log in to reply |
| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 06/04/2014 at 14:23 #58487 | |
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John
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I'm not entirely sure what the recent alterations were, so I'm not sure if this pic is of the current layout.
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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 06/04/2014 at 14:38 #58488 | |
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Hooverman
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Hello John, that is the old layout at Selhurst station, the crossover points are the other way round now. The reversal of the layout at Selhurst was the reason why Selhusrt slave panel was away ahem when the fire alarms went off.
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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 06/04/2014 at 14:43 #58489 | |
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John
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Ah thanks, I noticed the crossings had been renewed, but didn't know the layout had been changed.
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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 06/04/2014 at 14:55 #58490 | |
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Hooverman
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T1555 points were removed and replaced Thornton Heath side of T1554 points. T61 signal was also converted from an auto signal to a controlled signal and was also given a reduced overlap, as the full overlap when used would foul T1555 points in their new position.
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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 06/04/2014 at 15:10 #58493 | |
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John
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Going waaaay off topic here, but in an emergency would a passenger train be permitted through Selhurst Depot via Gullet/Tennison Road and Selhurst Arr/Dep roads? Maybe under the same arrangements as Lovers Walk carriage road?
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| Three Bridges fire alarm activated 06/04/2014 at 15:16 #58494 | |
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Hooverman
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When I first went to Bridges the answer was yes and it was covered in our SBI, but not anymore and have been withdrawn. This took place when Selhurst depot was being adapted to look after the new 377s and 171s and Southerns own SBI for the Selhusrt Panel operator were withdrawn so NR had to follow and withdraw ours as well.
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