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(Melbourne) Metro trains skipping stations justifiable 06/06/2014 at 13:51 #61385 | |
maxand
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Metro trains skipping stations justifiable: Transport Minister Terry Mulder Quote: Metro's practice of skipping stations when trains are running late is sometimes a justifiable way for the operator to improve its on-time performance, Victoria's Public Transport Minister Terry Mulder said.Seems to me that if our esteemed Public Transport Minister tries to raise punctuality to 95%, more trains will skip stations, inconveniencing more passengers. I don't know how prevalent this practice is in the UK, what punctuality penalties are imposed or whether the decision is made when drawing up the TT or announced to signallers, but it could do a lot for my Performance Analysis. Log in to reply |
(Melbourne) Metro trains skipping stations justifiable 06/06/2014 at 14:45 #61387 | |
Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
TOCS in the UK do omit stations on late running trains in order to get them back into path and try and mitigate later delays. Like your example the arrival at the end stations within the prescribed number of minutes (varies between TOCS) is where the punctuality is determined. However, other performance measure targets include measuring the effect of the omitted stops on passenegers. Somewhere I have an email from the ORR explaining exactly how it works. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: maxand |
(Melbourne) Metro trains skipping stations justifiable 06/06/2014 at 16:25 #61391 | |
Sacro
1171 posts |
Actually, the TOCs have similar Public Performance Measure (PPM) requirements, five minutes for London and South East or regional services, versus 10 minutes for long distance services.
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(Melbourne) Metro trains skipping stations justifiable 06/06/2014 at 16:30 #61392 | |
Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
" said:Actually, the TOCs have similar Public Performance Measure (PPM) requirements, five minutes for London and South East or regional services, versus 10 minutes for long distance services.Which is a variation between TOCS, which is what I said: actually. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
(Melbourne) Metro trains skipping stations justifiable 06/06/2014 at 18:00 #61397 | |
Muzer
718 posts |
I seem to remember reading that cancelling a single stop counts as cancelling the entire train for performance statistics, but I might be misremembering/otherwise wrong, so don't quote me.
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(Melbourne) Metro trains skipping stations justifiable 06/06/2014 at 18:08 #61399 | |
JamesN
1607 posts |
" said:Actually, the TOCs have similar Public Performance Measure (PPM) requirements, five minutes for London and South East or regional services, versus 10 minutes for long distance services.3 Minutes for Heathrow Express and Heathrow Connect Log in to reply |
(Melbourne) Metro trains skipping stations justifiable 06/06/2014 at 20:01 #61404 | |
metcontrol
227 posts |
To be fair, this happened long before privatisation. Speaking as a Controller of another network, I support any person in a similar capacity as me recovering the service in such a way - provided there is an alternative for those who "miss" the non-stopper (unless it's me who is suffering on my journey home ) Any operator who makes no effort to recover time, and simply sits back and hopes it fixes itself should not hold the position they do. On LUL's Met Line we tend to run late running services "fast" where possible to recover time. It is more preferable to turning a service short of its destination, or having the service run late and delay a subsequent train. Obviously there are exceptions, and usually we have an alternative train to serve those who cannot catch the original service, Log in to reply The following user said thank you: maxand |