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| 1M41 platform clash 24/03/2014 at 07:59 #57648 | |
wumpty
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The ECS that forms 1D52 and 1D53 is timetabled to run to Platform 10M, and as such when 1M41 arrives to 10B there's not enough space, as I've just found out  . The current booked platform for 1M41 is actually 9B, which makes sense as it's also free for the duration of its time in New St in the era simulated. Incidentally how does the signaller at New St know if there's space for another train if a driver doesn't in the right place on one of these platform middle jobs? Log in to reply |
| 1M41 platform clash 24/03/2014 at 11:08 #57654 | |
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Late Turn
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In reality, at most major stations at least, platform staff are in the best position to confirm whether there's sufficient room for a second train (and often indicate the required stopping position to an incoming driver), unless it can be deduced by track circuit occupation where there's more than one through the length of the platform. No idea whether New Street works like that, but it seems likely! Tom Log in to reply |
| 1M41 platform clash 24/03/2014 at 11:43 #57656 | |
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John
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At Victoria, when things are going wrong and the station's upside down, the signaller will give me a quick call to confirm what's where before s/he routes a train into an already occupied platform.
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| 1M41 platform clash 24/03/2014 at 15:45 #57675 | |
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mfcooper
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" said:At Victoria, when things are going wrong and the station's upside down, the signaller will give me a quick call to confirm what's where before s/he routes a train into an already occupied platform.Those few moments whilst John (and his colleagues) say "I'll just check the cameras", and the signaller hope they're going to say the correct answer. It doesn't help when they make a mistake is made and 8 goes on top of 6 in platform 12 :whistle: Damn stock changes! Log in to reply |
| 1M41 platform clash 24/03/2014 at 16:20 #57677 | |
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John
884 posts |
A few years back, the timetable had an 8 375 arriving in the platform which would then have a 4 375 from Grosvenor sidings follow it into the same platform to attach to it. Now, sometimes the shunter will ring two trains out at the same time - one in A section, the other in B. The next train scheduled from Grosvenor sidings immediately after the 4 375 was a 12 375. You can probably guess what happened next...! 
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| 1M41 platform clash 25/03/2014 at 16:51 #57773 | |
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TimB2010
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In regards to your question about the signaller knowing if there is space or not for a certain move, the regulator will ask the platform supervisor/chargeman concerened on the radio link between the box and the station. It is quite common for the supervisor on 6/7 or 10/11 to ask for certain trains to be brought into the station either Derby-side or Western if there are space issues. I had many of these conversations in my time as platform staff or supervisor at BHM. Log in to reply |
| 1M41 platform clash 26/03/2014 at 08:40 #57818 | |
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wumpty
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Many thanks for the answers. Curses 1D53 for stopping too far down the Gloucester end. I've just reloaded the save file. It's actually 1M53 which won't fit not 1M41. Oops, that'll teach me from posting after looking at current timetable which is a bit different. I used to be a guard in the West Mids, but it never dawned on me what the signallers had to put up with at New St, and how, even a couple delay minutes can spread to other lines. Really enjoying this though, thanks to all concerned 
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| 1M41 platform clash 30/09/2014 at 21:26 #64797 | |
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TimB2010
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" said:Many thanks for the answers. Curses 1D53 for stopping too far down the Gloucester end.It never dawned on me either, and I was a platform supervisor and dispatch trainer... :yikes Log in to reply |
| 1M41 platform clash 01/10/2014 at 07:47 #64799 | |
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delticfan
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" said:" said:Same here. I was a dispatcher at New St 12 years. Couldn't imagine what the signallers faced until I tackled New St sim. I remember how many short-notice platform changes there used to be though.Many thanks for the answers. Curses 1D53 for stopping too far down the Gloucester end.It never dawned on me either, and I was a platform supervisor and dispatch trainer... Log in to reply |
| 1M41 platform clash 01/10/2014 at 20:55 #64821 | |
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TimB2010
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" said:" said:I know, it used to drive the punters mad. I swear they all thought we were just doing it to "play trains"." said:Same here. I was a dispatcher at New St 12 years. Couldn't imagine what the signallers faced until I tackled New St sim. I remember how many short-notice platform changes there used to be though.Many thanks for the answers. Curses 1D53 for stopping too far down the Gloucester end.It never dawned on me either, and I was a platform supervisor and dispatch trainer... Log in to reply |
| 1M41 platform clash 02/10/2014 at 22:36 #64836 | |
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IrishDave
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" said:Many thanks for the answers. Curses 1D53 for stopping too far down the Gloucester end.Apologies - I only just saw this thread! I compiled the timetable, and in particular I made sure there aren't any platform clashes (which took more time than I'd care to admit...!). Looking carefully at the timetable, you'll note that 5D52 is due into New St at 07:09, two minutes after 1M53. (5D52 has 9 minutes pathing time between St Andrews Jn and Proof House Jn, so should be held at NS127 until right time.) So, if 1M53 is signalled into 10B first, and *then* 5D52 is given the call-on route at the mid-platform signal on 10, then 5D52 will stop in the right place and still leave enough room for 1V81-1 to reverse in 10A (after 1D52 has departed). Hopefully that should suffice as a work-around for now? When I next come to revise it I'll experiment with putting a stopping position on 5D52 and see if I can get it to work regardless of what order you put the trains in. Log in to reply |