Forthcoming Timetables

Dave, (and also Tempe Meads and Kaiwhara)

Frankly I wouldn't touch anything. Perhaps include suggested regulation notes as part of any manual accompanying the sim. The sim may well be upgraded one day and you'll only then have to put it all back.

1G02 should depart SWI on time and wait at Loco Yard for 1L10 (it's one of the control "going home" trains and they'd be most annoyed if it left Swindon just 2 minutes after they finished work!), it may then end up running late from Kemble but should recover plenty of time en-route to Cheltenham.

Everything else can just be held at loco yard a moment or two with minimal impact to running, a little common sense being all that's required to maintain the train service.

Any update on any updates for Mac Sims?

Both Central Scotland and Edinburgh have changed a fair bit over the last few years. New lines opened and ongoing electrification.

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Any update on any updates for Mac Sims?

Both Central Scotland and Edinburgh have changed a fair bit over the last few years. New lines opened and ongoing electrification.

According to this post and the ones following it, some of them are at the testing stage but Edinburgh is waiting for a core code problem to be fixed. I don't know if the update will include the new lines/electrification.

Therefore I will have to hope for an update to include the extra track between Swindon and Kemble: if that doesn't happen then a release of this 458-train timetable, which I have spent a lot of my spare time in the last 3½ months working on, is unlikely. Slightly crushing tbh.

Dave

RainbowNines wrote:
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When Carlisle loader and the new 79-80 TT lands I will not be available for social engagements, marital obligations or indeed feeding myself for weeks. Nay, months.

The little bits Pascal has revealed so far have really whet the appetite!!! I've been checking every day for the last few weeks just in case but it seems we might be inching closer!

Thanks for your comments & I hope it doesn't let you down. All the formations of the loco hauled trains are now 100% correct as we have now been available to get copies of the Passenger Train marshalling Books for May 1979 - May 1980 , not only for the LMR, but also for the GE, ER & ScR as well so all the diverted traffic due to the Penamshiel Tunnel collapse are now as these books state & some formations are so out of the ordinary you'd have either have had to have witnessed them in real life at that time to get anywhere near the right formation such as 1S58 2230 ThO Ely - Stirling which is formed of:-
loco+5NJV(GUV)+5NXV((GUV)+BFK(Mk.1 brake)+2SLSTP(Mk.1 sleeper)+3FK(Mk.1 coaches) = 16. You'd be lucky to guess that formation from just the timing load in the WTT. That said John & I are struggling to get one final part of the jigsaw correct & that is the formation of the Parcel trains namely:-

3M07 0337 MX Parcels Stranraer Harbour - London Euston
3M15 2245 SX Parcels Glasgow Central - Nottingham
3M19 1930 SX Parcels Glasgow Parcels Station - London Euston
3M57 1733 SX Parcels Ayr - Carlisle
3S07 0250 EWD Mail Carlisle - Ayr
3S11 2059 MX Parcels London Euston - Glasgow Parcels Station
3S15 2027 SX Parcels Bristol Temple Meads - Glasgow Parcels Station
3S18 (div.) 2038 SX Parcels London KX FT - Edinburgh Waverley
3S24 2350 SX Parcels Nottingham - Glasgow Central
3V05 2053 SX Parcels Glasgow Parcels Station - Bristol Temple Meads
4A14 0305 MX Parcels Carlisle - London Euston
4J29 0305 MO Carlisle - Oldham Clegg St.
4M10 0015 MX Parcels Glasgow Central - Manchester Victoria
4S06 1750 MX Parcels Carlisle - Perth
4S14 19:10 SX Parcels Crewe South Yard - Glasgow Parcels Station
4S16 0513 EWD Parcels Carlisle - Glasgow Parcels Station
4S17 1257 MX Parcels Crewe South Yard - Glasgow Parcels Station
4S19 05:15 MX Parcels London Euston - Stranraer Harbour
6S09 2340 SX Parcels Carlisle - Stranraer Harbour
5M02 1150 MO Empty NPCCS Falkland Jn. - Carlisle Yard - This one is shown as D595, however the ScR WTT staes this train is worked by a Cl.25 & therefore would only be conveying approx. 5 or 6 vans as an educated guess.
The BR oficial books that give details of the formations of these trains are probably the rarest on record as no one I know or John who has asked ex collegues from the Post Office have any MLIs or associated Newspaper train formation books. I only know those I've worked during my time on the footplate & that is on the Midland Main Line. I've even had correspondence from the BR Coaching Stock group on Yahoo pretty much confirm the same thing. So I'm afraid to say at best at the moment these trains are going to be on a 'best guess' basis. The Passenger Train marshaling Books give details of the formations of Postal trains, but not parcel trains. So if anyone out there would have any info on that list of parcel trains & there respected formations please drop either John or me a message & we can then avoid the 'best guess' scenario for these trains. It's annoying to think we've got everything right apart from these trains.

Hi Pascal.

What news on Carlisle 79-80. It's all gone very quiet. :)

Of course, but still excellent to hear that the relentless drive for realism and accuracy in the 79/80 Carlisle TT is ongoing!

No other timetable puts you in the moment quite like it. Close your eyes and think of a London sleeper waiting in the station while the 08 nips back and forth, postal trains loading and containers squealing round Rome Street Jn. (But don't keep them closed for too long cos someone's bound to phone you from a red!)