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| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 11:58 #75949 | |
Andrew G
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While I am aware about the lack of overlaps in New Street Station given the low line speed and 60's design I am curious as to whether anybody knows whether this is a legitimate move. Route set from Platform 7A to the the Derby line via end of Platform 8A when a route has also been set from P8B to P8A. It seems a bit close for comfort to me. 
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| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 12:12 #75950 | |
Sacro
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Depends on your definition of the word "legitimate" Based on Google's "define:legitimate", I'd say no on the first definition, Yes on the second. Last edited: 16/09/2015 at 12:13 by Sacro Log in to reply |
| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 12:28 #75951 | |
Peter Bennet
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Facebook is introducing a "dislike" button: handy. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 12:36 #75952 | |
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Sacro
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" said:Facebook is introducing a "dislike" button: handy.Reddit has a downvote button for comments that aren't contributing to the thread, handy! Log in to reply |
| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 12:40 #75953 | |
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Danny252
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Allowed by the interlocking, but I would imagine it's frowned upon/forbidden to set such a combination of routes, much like setting routes into either end of a platform simultaneously.
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| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 15:58 #75960 | |
GeoffM
6377 posts |
" said:Allowed by the interlocking, but I would imagine it's frowned upon/forbidden to set such a combination of routes, much like setting routes into either end of a platform simultaneously.That's pretty much it. I just checked the control tables to be sure and points 560 conditions to move reverse do not have any tests on 191 being set; conversely, routes from 191 do not mention points 560. Incidentally, early resignalling plans barely alter New Street and still no overlaps, thus still very low linespeed. NR seem to think that adding even short overlaps and upping the linespeed a little would kill the station. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 16:14 #75961 | |
flabberdacks
636 posts |
In the sim, those points seem to lock up and wait a time release if you bring something up to them on P8, whether they are sitting normal or reverse. I don't have the sim handy at the moment to actually work through it, but from memory it seemed to be based on track circuit occupancy rather than a route being set. Log in to reply |
| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 16:36 #75962 | |
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eddy
45 posts |
This route is legitimate it is used to route trains to the up Derby from platform 7 it was added along with other extra routes by a scheme funded by the West Midlands passenger transport executive (WMPTE) in the 1970's Incidentally platforms 1,2 &. 3 were also converted to bi-directional working. When te box was commissioned in 1965 platform 1,2 & 3 were signalled for train towards the London end of the station Eddy Log in to reply |
| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 16:45 #75964 | |
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Andrew G
552 posts |
Thanks for all of the comments.
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| Is this a legitimate route? 16/09/2015 at 18:14 #75966 | |
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GeoffM
6377 posts |
" said:In the sim, those points seem to lock up and wait a time release if you bring something up to them on P8, whether they are sitting normal or reverse.Yes, though P7, not P8. Time of operation locking. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: flabberdacks |