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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 12:54 #75978 | |
scottlowes
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Hi All An update as to what happened on last nights King Cross. I've checked the log from last nights game and found the issue. I've established that there was no fault with the sim itself in any way. Between 09:22 & 09:38 there were a total of 25 trains authorized to pass signals at danger. These were mainly in the Digswell Jn & Wooler Green Jn area, there were also some around Finsbury Park This was a result of a user waiting for a panel to become free, whilst waiting said user authorized these trains to pass signals at danger whilst another service was in the block in front, by using; Multiplayer > Control Panel > Make Train Pass Signal At Danger. Log File Below 09:22:20 Client WSM : 5E34-15E34-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:22:39 Client WSM : 2V11-12V11-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:23:02 Client WSM : 1T04-11T04-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:24:01 Client WSM : 2V12-12V12-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:26:07 Client WSM : 1S09-11S09-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:26:18 Client WSM : 0Z90-10Z90-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:26:24 Client WSM : 2C59-12C59-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:26:40 Client WSM : 2J28-12J28-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:26:46 Client WSM : 2K18-12K18-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:27:16 Client WSM : 1T04-11T04-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:29:49 Client WSM : 5E39-15E39-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:30:02 Client WSM : 1S10-11S10-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:30:39 Client WSM : 1Y11-11Y11-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:30:53 Client WSM : 1C34-11C34-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:32:00 Client WSM : 5E37-15E37-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:34:11 Client WSM : 1E01-11E01-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:35:53 Client WSM : 2J19-12J19-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:35:59 Client WSM : 1P54-11P54-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:36:13 Client WSM : 2J25-12J25-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:36:30 Client WSM : 1N81-11N81-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:37:56 Client WSM : 1T55-11T55-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:38:05 Client WSM : 1D07-11D07-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:38:17 Client WSM : 2K20-12K20-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:38:53 Client WSM : 1N81-11N81-1 authorised to pass signal at danger 09:38:53 Client WSM : 5E39-15E39-1 authorised to pass signal at danger This resulted in the session ending early as there was chaos and jams to Hitchin & Potters Bar with average delays of around 35 Mins. I apologise for the incident last night and i hope that this has not put anyone off joinig my sessions in the future. Last edited: 17/09/2015 at 22:01 by scottlowes Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 14:22 #75982 | |
jc92
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Is is maybe possible for said link to be removed? Users working a panel can manage the trains via F2 that are on their patch specifically. The host can access all trains via F2.
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 15:56 #75984 | |
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JamesN
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" said:Is is maybe possible for said link to be removed? Users working a panel can manage the trains via F2 that are on their patch specifically. The host can access all trains via F2.The ability to do it via F2 is considerably newer than the old multiplayer control panel. I will raise your suggestion through the issue tracker though as I agree it is now superfluous. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: scottlowes |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 16:57 #75985 | |
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tjtbcork
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I'm glad you found the log file. I must say it was rather frustrating last night. Possibly limiting the control panel to the Host might be a better way to go. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: scottlowes |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 17:02 #75987 | |
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scottlowes
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Yeah was really frustrating, i did try and sort the session out this morning but there was just too much damage done. If anyones interested i can upload the same for anyone to try and sort it? Hopefully next Wednesday will be hassle free Last edited: 17/09/2015 at 17:02 by scottlowes Log in to reply |
| Hi All An update as to what happened on last nights King Cross 17/09/2015 at 17:16 #75988 | |
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LMK
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The delays could have been reduced if people weren't changing the head-codes of trains on other person's panels. I am aware that the game sometimes does this automatically at stations but apart from that, the only person in charge of changing head-codes, is the person in charge of the panel where the head code change is required. Adding the correct head-codes to trains in SimSig is very important and F2 will always give the correct train location and number. One more thing worth mentioning...Please try to figure out why a train is refusing to pass a signal before you instruct it to SPAD or abandon timetable. One of the most common reasons for a train to claim it is at a red (even though it isn't), is an incorrect head-code. But anyway. I might be posting a topic about head-codes and stuff later. Thanks for the host though! It was very enjoyable. Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 17:20 #75989 | |
headshot119
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" said:Yeah was really frustrating, i did try and sort the session out this morning but there was just too much damage done.Upload it and I'll give fixing it a go 
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 17:24 #75990 | |
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scottlowes
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See attachment below, The fast lines through Welwyn were in the process of being reopened Average delay is around 35 Mins [attachment=3422]ScottLowesKingsxMulti.ssg[/attachment] Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Last edited: 17/09/2015 at 17:25 by scottlowes Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 17:28 #75991 | |
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arabianights
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Wasn't at the game, but the other thing to remember the host can kick a badly behaving member, if this happens again I would suggest that. If you change the logging mode to "both" then you can pick these things up in game more easily. I also think that anyone who does such a thing knowingly should be watched with caution. Certainly WSM should have to account for the below and undertake not to repeat it before anyone lets them in their games, I struggle to think of an innocent explanation that isn't rather far fetched, but if we allow far fetched explanations, perhaps they are not really understanding the different social norms that multiplayer simluations have compared to multiplayer games (there are many of the latter where this sort of sabotaging of ones own "team" to get to play oneself would, if not quite be accepted, at least not be the time-ruining act it was here). Log in to reply The following user said thank you: scottlowes |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 17:37 #75992 | |
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scottlowes
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Out of interest what is the difference between Display & Log in the control panel?
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 17:40 #75993 | |
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headshot119
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" said:Out of interest what is the difference between Display & Log in the control panel?Log just writes to a text file. Display displays the log in the message window only. Both does both. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following users said thank you: scottlowes, Jezalenko |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 17:44 #75994 | |
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scottlowes
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Excellent, i only had Log enabled last night which is why i couldn't find the message log Thanks Scott Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 18:43 #75998 | |
HST125Scorton
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Just loaded up the saved file...  It's a right pickle and fun ruined.. I'm going to try myself to get things on the go at a low speed.. wish me luck..
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 19:10 #76002 | |
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LMK
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I think that the delays could have been reduced if the headcodes of certain trains were correct. For example, someone removed 0Z90's headcode which caused major confusion and lead to the headcodes of other trains being changed. Wrong routes were set and all sorts simply because some people could not be bothered to check F2 On the whole however, last night's session was very eventful and exiting. Hope to see more hosts from you soon
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 19:19 #76005 | |
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tjtbcork
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" said:I think that the delays could have been reduced if the headcodes of certain trains were correct. For example, someone removed 0Z90's headcode which caused major confusion and lead to the headcodes of other trains being changed. Wrong routes were set and all sorts simply because some people could not be bothered to check F2The headcode problem was a result of the trains passing the reds. Two trains in one section with the second train overwriting the first. We both suffered from outside interference with our panels now we know who it was. Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 20:49 #76010 | |
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WinsfordSaltMine
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I am really sorry for what I did last night, I have no real explanation bar that I was and idiot. I really hope you can all forgive me and put the past behind us, but if you can't then I will leave the forum and never join a multisession again. So again, I am very sorry for my actions, it was stupid, I was having a bad day and took it on you guys which I shouldn't of done. Hope you forgive if not I understand
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 20:59 #76011 | |
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arabianights
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" said:I am really sorry for what I did last night, I have no real explanation bar that I was and idiot. I really hope you can all forgive me and put the past behind us, but if you can't then I will leave the forum and never join a multisession again. So again, I am very sorry for my actions, it was stupid, I was having a bad day and took it on you guys which I shouldn't of done. Hope you forgive if not I understandSo far as I'm concerned everyone deserves a second chance and I would let you into a game I am hosting in the future after this (although I could see why others would disagree). Just try not to be a mental going forward
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 21:08 #76013 | |
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WinsfordSaltMine
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I really am sorry for last night guys, I don't know what came over me
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 21:13 #76014 | |
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scottlowes
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" said:I am really sorry for what I did last night, I have no real explanation bar that I was and idiot. I really hope you can all forgive me and put the past behind us, but if you can't then I will leave the forum and never join a multisession again. So again, I am very sorry for my actions, it was stupid, I was having a bad day and took it on you guys which I shouldn't of done. Hope you forgive if not I understandI agree with Dave everyone deserves a second chance, you've apologized and i accept and i have no issue with you joinig any of my hosted sessions in future providing it doesn't happen again. Many Thanks Scott Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 21:21 #76015 | |
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LMK
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" said:I am really sorry for what I did last night, I have no real explanation bar that I was and idiot. I really hope you can all forgive me and put the past behind us, but if you can't then I will leave the forum and never join a multisession again. So again, I am very sorry for my actions, it was stupid, I was having a bad day and took it on you guys which I shouldn't of done. Hope you forgive if not I understandMay I ask what you did? Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 21:25 #76016 | |
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scottlowes
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See first post
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| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 21:49 #76017 | |
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LMK
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" said:See first post Where? Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 21:52 #76018 | |
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scottlowes
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The first post in this thread explaining what happened Thanks Scott Log in to reply |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 21:58 #76019 | |
Peter Bennet
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" said:" said:See post 1, but I think we can let the matter rest now and move on.I am really sorry for what I did last night, I have no real explanation bar that I was and idiot. I really hope you can all forgive me and put the past behind us, but if you can't then I will leave the forum and never join a multisession again. So again, I am very sorry for my actions, it was stupid, I was having a bad day and took it on you guys which I shouldn't of done. Hope you forgive if not I understandMay I ask what you did? Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: scottlowes |
| Last Nights Kings Cross Session 17/09/2015 at 22:07 #76020 | |
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LMK
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" said:" said:Ohh! Yeah, not that big a deal." said:See post 1, but I think we can let the matter rest now and move on.I am really sorry for what I did last night, I have no real explanation bar that I was and idiot. I really hope you can all forgive me and put the past behind us, but if you can't then I will leave the forum and never join a multisession again. So again, I am very sorry for my actions, it was stupid, I was having a bad day and took it on you guys which I shouldn't of done. Hope you forgive if not I understandMay I ask what you did? Log in to reply |