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York North/South 16/05/2016 at 15:41 #82416 | |
GeoffM
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" said:What is the difference between platforms 10/11 and 10X/11X? The manual is rather sparse and doesn't make any mention of these.It mentions it twice... once in the York South (York station) section, and again in the Timetabling section. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 15:43 #82417 | |
GeoffM
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" said:One issue I have with both York and Leeds, which is probably prototypical but a little irritating all the same:Turn off "Train entering area" messages and turn on "TD berth occupation/change". However, this won't work for older sims. The TD berth alarm is raised on the strike-in berths, typically those labelled APPR. The "Train entering area" message is when the train actually comes into existence, ie appears on the F2 train list, and yes in many places there is a long run-up before it actually appears on your screen. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Splodge |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 16:32 #82421 | |
Danny252
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" said:" said:Oh, so there are multiple pages! I'd been lulled into thinking that manuals came in two formats - multi-page manuals linked off a contents page (e.g. South Humberside), and single page manuals (e.g. Fenchurch St). York combines the two and I simply assumed it was one page, and searching "X" on the page found nothing.What is the difference between platforms 10/11 and 10X/11X? The manual is rather sparse and doesn't make any mention of these.It mentions it twice... once in the York South (York station) section, and again in the Timetabling section. Quote: Turn off "Train entering area" messages and turn on "TD berth occupation/change". However, this won't work for older sims.Does older sims mean "anything else but York" or "sims more than a few months/years old"? Last edited: 16/05/2016 at 16:40 by Danny252 Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 17:22 #82422 | |
Class 92
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I think I've found a bug, a train was entering platform 9 in the down direction and I had routed an up train into platform 10 and train entering platform 9 (1S03) TD's changed to the other end of the platform as shown the in screenshot. ![]() Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 17:25 #82423 | |
kaiwhara
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" said:I think I've found a bug, a train was entering platform 9 in the down direction and I had routed an up train into platform 10 and train entering platform 9 (1S03) TD's changed to the other end of the platform as shown the in screenshot.Feel free to either read the Manual, or the last four messages in this thread. Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait! Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 17:30 #82424 | |
Class 92
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" said:" said:I don't see my issue mentioned? As far as I can see, the manual about TD stepping was talking about calling-on routes. This wasn't a calling on route.I think I've found a bug, a train was entering platform 9 in the down direction and I had routed an up train into platform 10 and train entering platform 9 (1S03) TD's changed to the other end of the platform as shown the in screenshot.Feel free to either read the Manual, or the last four messages in this thread. Last edited: 16/05/2016 at 17:38 by Class 92 Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 17:53 #82425 | |
GeoffM
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" said:" said:Different authors have different styles, and different readers have different preferences. Can't please everybody" said:Oh, so there are multiple pages! I'd been lulled into thinking that manuals came in two formats - multi-page manuals linked off a contents page (e.g. South Humberside), and single page manuals (e.g. Fenchurch St). York combines the two and I simply assumed it was one page, and searching "X" on the page found nothing.What is the difference between platforms 10/11 and 10X/11X? The manual is rather sparse and doesn't make any mention of these.It mentions it twice... once in the York South (York station) section, and again in the Timetabling section. ![]() " said: " said:It depends on the sim developer using the feature. The feature has been there for quite some time, but I don't recall exactly when.Does older sims mean "anything else but York" or "sims more than a few months/years old"? SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 18:00 #82426 | |
headshot119
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" said:" said:You've brought the train in under either warner class, shunt class, or call on class route. It is normal for the TD to step into the rear berth in these cases. (so as not to overwrite the TD at the far end)" said:I don't see my issue mentioned? As far as I can see, the manual about TD stepping was talking about calling-on routes. This wasn't a calling on route.I think I've found a bug, a train was entering platform 9 in the down direction and I had routed an up train into platform 10 and train entering platform 9 (1S03) TD's changed to the other end of the platform as shown the in screenshot.Feel free to either read the Manual, or the last four messages in this thread. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 18:06 #82427 | |
jc92
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" said:" said:What he's saying is setting a route into 10 has moved the TD in 9 which it shouldnt (nothing to do with warners or call ons." said:You've brought the train in under either warner class, shunt class, or call on class route. It is normal for the TD to step into the rear berth in these cases. (so as not to overwrite the TD at the far end)" said:I don't see my issue mentioned? As far as I can see, the manual about TD stepping was talking about calling-on routes. This wasn't a calling on route.I think I've found a bug, a train was entering platform 9 in the down direction and I had routed an up train into platform 10 and train entering platform 9 (1S03) TD's changed to the other end of the platform as shown the in screenshot.Feel free to either read the Manual, or the last four messages in this thread. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 18:30 #82429 | |
TomOF
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" said:I can't see any reference to that mentioned. If a train is being brought into a platform under a warner route there should not be another TD in that same platform for the incoming train to conflict with. And as Joe says, routing a train into platform 10 should not cause the TD in platform 9 to ripple backwards. Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 18:38 #82430 | |
KymriskaDraken
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" said:" said:I can reproduce this. Mantis 15331 applies." said:What he's saying is setting a route into 10 has moved the TD in 9 which it shouldnt (nothing to do with warners or call ons." said:You've brought the train in under either warner class, shunt class, or call on class route. It is normal for the TD to step into the rear berth in these cases. (so as not to overwrite the TD at the far end)" said:I don't see my issue mentioned? As far as I can see, the manual about TD stepping was talking about calling-on routes. This wasn't a calling on route.I think I've found a bug, a train was entering platform 9 in the down direction and I had routed an up train into platform 10 and train entering platform 9 (1S03) TD's changed to the other end of the platform as shown the in screenshot.Feel free to either read the Manual, or the last four messages in this thread. Kev Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 19:48 #82431 | |
Danny252
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The route from 353 (DF) to 355 (DS) at Tollerton is approach release from red. I'm a little surprised that this is the case, given that the crossover is good for 70mph, and that other crossovers in the area are amply provided with FY/FYY sequences. Is this true to life?
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York North/South 16/05/2016 at 19:55 #82432 | |
GeoffM
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" said:The route from 353 (DF) to 355 (DS) at Tollerton is approach release from red. I'm a little surprised that this is the case, given that the crossover is good for 70mph, and that other crossovers in the area are amply provided with FY/FYY sequences. Is this true to life?You're right - #15333 SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 20:10 #82433 | |
Tempest Malice
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The route from 307 to 313 (skelton junction down main up direction signal to the down fast) drops out immediately as you set it, but the signal behaves as if the route is still active,even though the route locking is completely non present as shown in the picture:![]() The points in the route are free to move and doing so causes the aspect to revert, but the signal re clears when you put the points back It seems the aspect logic only checks the point positions and not the fact that the route locking exists. Running a train through causes the TC's to flood, but the train behaves as if the route is still there. But those last two sentences seem to just be symptoms of the route locking vanishing on the route and not separate problems of their own. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 20:19 #82434 | |
KymriskaDraken
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" said:The route from 307 to 313 (skelton junction down main up direction signal to the down fast) drops out immediately as you set it, but the signal behaves as if the route is still active,even though the route locking is completely non present as shown in the picture:Mantis 15335 for this one. Kev Log in to reply |
York North/South 16/05/2016 at 20:21 #82435 | |
GeoffM
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" said:The route from 307 to 313 (skelton junction down main up direction signal to the down fast) drops out immediately as you set it, but the signal behaves as if the route is still active,even though the route locking is completely non present as shown in the picture:#15334 " said: This is standard for SSI locking - the subroute locking holds everything up but is not actually checked in the signal proving stage. Trains will follow the lie of the pointwork in all but the most wiggly routes. SimSig Boss Last edited: 16/05/2016 at 20:22 by GeoffM Log in to reply |
York North/South 17/05/2016 at 04:54 #82449 | |
GeoffM
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Sim updated to V1.1 - click "Check for Updates" in the Loader. Most issues addressed; a couple outstanding. All listed here.
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York North/South 17/05/2016 at 11:12 #82457 | |
lazzer
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So all these cows and sheep that want to cross the line at 02.00 ... when I answer the call with "call back after next train", the train passes the crossing but no call is received for a good few minutes afterwards. I can't remember if in other sims the caller comes back to you as soon as the train is clear, but there seems to be a big delay between the train passing and the caller calling back in this sim. Just something I've noticed. Log in to reply |
York North/South 17/05/2016 at 11:39 #82459 | |
KymriskaDraken
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" said:So all these cows and sheep that want to cross the line at 02.00 ... when I answer the call with "call back after next train", the train passes the crossing but no call is received for a good few minutes afterwards. I can't remember if in other sims the caller comes back to you as soon as the train is clear, but there seems to be a big delay between the train passing and the caller calling back in this sim.This has been reported. Mantis 15317 applies. Kev Log in to reply |
York North/South 17/05/2016 at 14:47 #82464 | |
lazzer
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" said:" said:Cheers.So all these cows and sheep that want to cross the line at 02.00 ... when I answer the call with "call back after next train", the train passes the crossing but no call is received for a good few minutes afterwards. I can't remember if in other sims the caller comes back to you as soon as the train is clear, but there seems to be a big delay between the train passing and the caller calling back in this sim.This has been reported. Mantis 15317 applies. Log in to reply |
York North/South 17/05/2016 at 18:02 #82484 | |
Class 92
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Not a major issue just something for if the timetable gets updated but 1P25's train description in 2016 TT say's 09:55 Leeds to Manchester Airport despite the fact it starts at York. Loving the sim so far, it's a great single player sim!
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York North/South 17/05/2016 at 18:30 #82486 | |
officer dibble
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" said:Not a major issue just something for if the timetable gets updated but 1P25's train description in 2016 TT say's 09:55 Leeds to Manchester Airport despite the fact it starts at York. Loving the sim so far, it's a great single player sim!Thanks for the heads up. Typo on my part, TT amended accordingly. If I have done it right, updated TT attached. Post has attachments. Log in to view them. Log in to reply |
York North/South 18/05/2016 at 10:49 #82496 | |
Ray
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I noticed on viewing a very recent video of York Station in Youtube that platform 5 is actually split into 5a and 5b. This simulation seems to make no mention of this. Secondly, entry to North Yard requires a telephone call but I do not see signal Y243 on the list of possible entry points. Can someone please explain why there is a list of signals which bear no relation to the entry point ? Log in to reply |
York North/South 18/05/2016 at 11:07 #82497 | |
njimiller
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Not sure about the yard, but I suspect the platform 5/5A issue is non-signalling related and may be designed to encourage passengers for the shorter London bound Grand Central trains to stand at the right part of the platform to board the train (5A). There are no separate signal sections on P5 so as such none will appear on the panel. Nick Log in to reply |
York North/South 18/05/2016 at 11:25 #82498 | |
BarryM
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" said:I noticed on viewing a very recent video of York Station in Youtube that platform 5 is actually split into 5a and 5b. This simulation seems to make no mention of this.Signal Y243 is the first signal on North's Panel Down Slow line and is the signal for entry into North Sidings. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |