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More in-depth Telephone system 26/10/2009 at 17:27 #150
ralphjwchadkirk
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275 posts 		I'm sure that this has been discussed on the old forum, but a feature I would like would be a more in depth telephone systems. Say with other boxes phoning you up and you phoning them asking for blocks on lines, or you being able to phone boxes to ask if you can run a early train etc.

That was my serious suggestion, but I have a few more ones - like having COSS's phone up and wanting possesions, or NR control phoning, but I can dreamk
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More in-depth Telephone system 26/10/2009 at 17:27 #3779
ralphjwchadkirk
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275 posts 		I'm sure that this has been discussed on the old forum, but a feature I would like would be a more in depth telephone systems. Say with other boxes phoning you up and you phoning them asking for blocks on lines, or you being able to phone boxes to ask if you can run a early train etc.

That was my serious suggestion, but I have a few more ones - like having COSS's phone up and wanting possesions, or NR control phoning, but I can dreamk
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More in-depth Telephone system 26/10/2009 at 17:37 #3780
Peter Bennet
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5419 posts 		All you suggest is entirely possible.

Peter
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More in-depth Telephone system 26/10/2009 at 19:48 #3782
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131 posts 		i like this sugestion
as i play cambridge 85tt a lot some trains from london run late. it would be nice to get that info before the train arrives on pannel so we can move slow running trains that are in the way?

yours

paul
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More in-depth Telephone system 26/10/2009 at 21:12 #3784
postal
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5269 posts 		Paul

On my system, you get a message in the bottom right messages window at the time the train is due to enter saying "Train 0X00 will be about YY minutes late entering your area". At the same time, the incident log (f7) shows "0X00 running YY minutes late". You can tweak the settings under the messages tab on f3 if you want things like a sound or a pop-up box as well. If I've read your message correctly, that seems to do exactly what you want.

JG
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More in-depth Telephone system 26/10/2009 at 21:45 #3785
ozzyd9001
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131 posts 		thanks postal for that

muppet here rememberd that just as soon as i posted it

embarresd or what lol

thanks again postal
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More in-depth Telephone system 26/10/2009 at 22:33 #3786
John
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884 posts 		I think this is an excellent idea, and one that should be given serious consideration. It would add represent a greater level of realism, thereby enhancing the gaming experience.
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More in-depth Telephone system 27/10/2009 at 07:35 #3787
ralphjwchadkirk
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275 posts 		Thanks John. It also adds a bit of unexpected "danger" to the sim, as you have no idea which box will want a block on what line or posessions somewhere - so a lot more unpredictable.
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More in-depth Telephone system 27/10/2009 at 11:43 #3790
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1764 posts 		If other boxes are going to ask for possessions there also needs to be a means of agreeing when & where the possessions will be. Apart from emergency possessions of course - I see no reason not to include them. Would also be good to incorporate asking for particular lines to be blocked (currently using the BLOK method on thos sims that incorporate it) in both directions, in connection with points failures & such.
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More in-depth Telephone system 27/10/2009 at 11:46 #3791
ralphjwchadkirk
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275 posts 		For faliures, actually having the technicians phoning up and taking posessions, rather than just 1/2 later being told it is fixed.
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More in-depth Telephone system 31/10/2009 at 19:03 #3819
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64 posts 		I like the idea of a more in depth phone system and id certainly support the idea of techs phoning you once they get on site. Would also be very nice (and handy) if they could also offer an *estimated* time of completion with the time obviously based on your sim settings.

Granting T2 possessions would be very cool and i suspect it could work similar to authorsing the use of the level crossings.
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More in-depth Telephone system 31/10/2009 at 19:16 #3820
ralphjwchadkirk
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275 posts 		My idea was a success! I thought it was just me that wanted the phone calls but so does everyone else!

To a developer - are there any plans for the system to be extended?
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More in-depth Telephone system 08/11/2009 at 00:28 #3921
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177 posts 		I too like ther idea of being given a "geusstimate" for the length of a failure. I've just had two on Sheffield. The 1st was fixed reasonably quickly and I probably caused more delays by diverting/cancelling trains. The 2nd last longer but this time, based on the previous one, I just held trains! Sod's law.
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More in-depth Telephone system 11/01/2010 at 20:52 #5742
Mike_714
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8 posts 		You could also have calls from Drivers/Conductors regarding trespassers on the line, which would also result in cautioning all services. I know this is becoming a big issue for all routes around the country

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Mike
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More in-depth Telephone system 08/04/2010 at 15:46 #8260
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410 posts 		Further to this & using my professional hat, you have platform staff phone up for a number of reasons, ie...

1) Re-platforming of a train for operational purposes
2) Requesting a block on the line to retrieve an object dropped by a silly passenger

and many more, that I cannot think of at the moment.
When in doubt - Contingency plan 2A. Someone didn't buy the milk - 2A. Someone sneezed at Swansea - 2A. A driver complains the cab is too cold - 2A. Unable to operate a HEx service 4 vice 8 - 2A. Points failure at Ipswich - 2A. Landslip at Pitlochry - 2A
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More in-depth Telephone system 08/04/2010 at 17:12 #8270
lpeters
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160 posts 		Re-platforming is usually done at the signal box end. Maybe it'd be good if signallers phoned ahead to platform staff; platform altered to Px because I know form experiences at Stevenage that trains on Platform 1 regularly get re-platformed to 2 and the platform alteration message only comes in as it's clearing the final set of points so platform staff only find out as the train enters. I know once or twice that i've seen the guy on the platform with the close doors/roll away key running as fast as his legs could carry him to get around to the Platform 2 CD/RA point - it's quite funny sometimes.
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More in-depth Telephone system 10/04/2010 at 07:31 #8341
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102 posts 		From experience in the real NR Control, one element that would aid reality - albeit usually done at the Control/ICC level rather than the box - is prioritising faults. Most areas only have limited teams available and one job of the Incident Controller/Support Controller is to prioritise which faults they go to first. They don't just magically appear on site either, you have to allow travelling from base or a previous job/fault, shift changeover and maybe going back to the depot. In SimSig as in real life you are going to want them to deal with the fault which has most potential for disruption (delay minutes!), rather than the blown signal bulb on a line with a train every two hours.
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More in-depth Telephone system 18/04/2010 at 09:59 #8607
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1123 posts 		lpeters said:
I know form experiences at Stevenage that trains on Platform 1 regularly get re-platformed to 2 and the platform alteration message only comes in as it's clearing the final set of points so platform staff only find out as the train enters. I know once or twice that i've seen the guy on the platform with the close doors/roll away key running as fast as his legs could carry him to get around to the Platform 2 CD/RA point - it's quite funny sometimes.
Yes but the dispatch position is right next to the office door on both platforms 1 and 2 so really no reason for said staff member to be running around to the other dispatch position as he can just go though the office!

Unless 1. He's a idiot and 2. He does it to keep fit!

You could have the station staff ring up to say the wrong route has been set ie the 0912 to Kings Cross from Hertford has a route set to the Up Yard rather then to the Up Main as has been the case.
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More in-depth Telephone system 18/04/2010 at 11:27 #8610
Peter Bennet
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5419 posts 		I've never really understood the Stevenage scenario as the train is platformed almost before it's left KX (why?) and anyway at Woolmer Green 99% of the time the platforming die is then cast so the system should trip then and save of a last minute switch on the approach it would be right some time in advance.

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More in-depth Telephone system 18/04/2010 at 12:44 #8612
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1803 posts 		ajax103 said:
You could have the station staff ring up to say the wrong route has been set ie the 0912 to Kings Cross from Hertford has a route set to the Up Yard rather then to the Up Main as has been the case.
Isn't the driver meant to be the one ringing up and challenging the route?
Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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More in-depth Telephone system 20/04/2010 at 13:54 #8668
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1461 posts 		UKTrainMan said:
ajax103 said:
You could have the station staff ring up to say the wrong route has been set ie the 0912 to Kings Cross from Hertford has a route set to the Up Yard rather then to the Up Main as has been the case.
Isn't the driver meant to be the one ringing up and challenging the route?
Also, how would the station staff know the 0912 is next? It could easily be a freight or ECS working that you're looping/terminating, with the 0912 being behind it.
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More in-depth Telephone system 20/04/2010 at 15:22 #8671
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699 posts 		Either way, I don't think the Signalman would be doing much until he'd spoken to the Driver to confirm that he was going to restore the signal to Danger, even if the station staff were correct.
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More in-depth Telephone system 20/04/2010 at 16:41 #8673
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1803 posts 		Danny252 said:
UKTrainMan said:
ajax103 said:
You could have the station staff ring up to say the wrong route has been set ie the 0912 to Kings Cross from Hertford has a route set to the Up Yard rather then to the Up Main as has been the case.
Isn't the driver meant to be the one ringing up and challenging the route?
Also, how would the station staff know the 0912 is next? It could easily be a freight or ECS working that you're looping/terminating, with the 0912 being behind it.
The station staff do have access to a system which can tell them all sorts of things;

Train Headcode
Destination
Full timetable
Delay
What time it left a certain station
It's rough location (including what line it's on)
It can even tell them what unit number(s) the train is formed of (i.e: 377501 + 377523) and even the individual carriage numbers!

The only problem with it is that they just need to know how to use it properly.

Although I don't think it can tell them things about any signal failures / signal lamp failures, points failures, track circuit failures - hence station staff should not be calling up the signaller to challenge a route as they don't have enough information about the current status of all the signalling equipment in their area, unless they have been informed.
Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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More in-depth Telephone system 20/04/2010 at 16:44 #8674
ralphjwchadkirk
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275 posts 		The system you describe UKTM is TRUST (Train Reporting System on TOPS). As to knowing how to use it; it wouldn't take a genius.

They also have access to a system called P2 which shows an IECC like screen of the area showing lines, trains, stations, headcodes and signal aspects.
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More in-depth Telephone system 20/04/2010 at 16:49 #8675
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1803 posts 		ralphjwchadkirk said:
The system you describe UKTM is TRUST (Train Reporting System on TOPS). As to knowing how to use it; it wouldn't take a genius.

They also have access to a system called P2 which shows an IECC like screen of the area showing lines, trains, stations, headcodes and signal aspects.
Actually the one I'm describing is called P2....but I didn't want to mention it's name in my original post.
Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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