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| Kings Cross Sleepers 13/09/2010 at 11:32 #1758 | |
michaeltrs
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Wanted to find out some information about these in the 1985 timetables thats in the sims. 1e35 and 1e31 about 30 mins apart, are they representative of a single train that joins or is it in actual fact 2 10-15 car sleeper trains. Any details on the consist and timetables (from edinburgh south to KX) would be really good to get ahold of. I have tried to find something on the internet but little info is available. Are there historical pdf's or scans of WTT available on the internet? Log in to reply |
| Kings Cross Sleepers 13/09/2010 at 11:32 #11434 | |
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michaeltrs
17 posts |
Wanted to find out some information about these in the 1985 timetables thats in the sims. 1e35 and 1e31 about 30 mins apart, are they representative of a single train that joins or is it in actual fact 2 10-15 car sleeper trains. Any details on the consist and timetables (from edinburgh south to KX) would be really good to get ahold of. I have tried to find something on the internet but little info is available. Are there historical pdf's or scans of WTT available on the internet? Log in to reply |
| Kings Cross Sleepers 13/09/2010 at 11:51 #11436 | |
Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
They are separate trains. There used to be somthing like 4 or 5 sleeper trains (or at least overnight- some were sleeper only and some were seating only as well as mixed) on the ECML between Edinburgh/Aberdeen and Kings Cross, plus some from within England (Newcastle, West Yorkshire and maybe Hull too. Some did combine en-route but others were wholly separate. Some were named trains like the "Night Aberdonian", "Night Capitals" and "Night Scotsman" and more latterly "NightRider" which was more of a generic description of the day coach section with blue lighting. That's off the top of my head- with further research I maybe able to come up with more information. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Kings Cross Sleepers 18/09/2010 at 17:39 #11584 | |
Chrisrail
384 posts |
Hull never had a sleeper service. If I remember right trains to Hull at that night were passenger / newspaper trains.
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| Kings Cross Sleepers 18/09/2010 at 20:17 #11594 | |
Meld
1111 posts |
Quite right Chris - too many overnights at Doncaster under the belt in my youth lol. Papers to Hull went via Leeds from Manchester Victoria and the ECS for the Hull Executive used to leave Doncaster in the small hours, oh to be able to hear the twin Napiers in the middle of the night working north again. Cheers 9003 Passed the age to be doing 'Spoon Feeding' !!! Log in to reply |
| Kings Cross Sleepers 19/09/2010 at 13:52 #11621 | |
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benstafford
88 posts |
According to 1985 Public TT: 2335 from Edi arr 0627 sleeping car only Night Scotsman 2235 from Edi arr 0638 2035 from Aberdeen arr 0700 2200 from Aberdeen arr 0733 Night Aberdonian 2145 from Ncl arr 0300 Log in to reply |
| Kings Cross Sleepers 19/09/2010 at 15:29 #11625 | |
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Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
Table 26- Summer 1977 UP- all 'over[mid]night' trains to Kings Cross plus 01.12 Newcastle. 22.16(SX) Sunderland (beds only) + 22.55(SX) Newcastle join Darlington (beds only) + 00.40(MX) Leeds join Doncaster (beds and seats) 20.20(SX) Edinburgh (seats) 21.20/21.50 Leeds and 20.30/21.00 Newcastle (seats only) join at Doncaster SO 20.40 (SO) Edinburgh (beds and seats) plus beds from Newcastle and 01.00 (SuO) Leeds (beds). 22.05 (FO) Edinburgh (seats)- summer only 22.10/22.30 Edinburgh (Beds only) "Night Capitals" 19.10/19.25 Aberdeen (seats only) 19.20/21.15 Aberdeen (beds only) "Night Aberdonian" 20.00/20.15 Aberdeen (beds only) 01.12 Newcastle (seats only) Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |