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| Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 15:16 #19842 | |
welshdragon
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Post here any questions relating to validity of tickets: Here's my query: A group of friends are travelling HGT - AGL on a Saturday night, is the Off Peak Return valid via Liverpool Lime Street (as there is no direct service from Manchester to AGL after 17:00) Log in to reply |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 15:19 #19843 | |
jc92
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might help if u put the full station names lol
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 16:35 #19850 | |
headshot119
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If you give me an hour or so I'll check the routing guide. I'm on a train so may be slow replying.
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 16:41 #19852 | |
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headshot119
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Yes it's valid the following ways. Manchester - Abergele via Liverpool and Chester Manchester - Abergele via Liverpool and Bidston and Shotton "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 16:43 #19854 | |
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jc92
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im still no better off on what HGT and AGL are? :S
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 16:47 #19855 | |
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headshot119
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HGT = Harrogate AGL = Abergele & Pensarn "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 16:49 #19856 | |
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jc92
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ah ok. i hate to be a pedant, but forum rules say dont use text language or abbreviations where possible. i dont see why it makes any sense to put HGT and AGL instead of harrogate and abergele?
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 17:08 #19863 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:ah ok. i hate to be a pedant, but forum rules say dont use text language or abbreviations where possible. i dont see why it makes any sense to put HGT and AGL instead of harrogate and abergele?HGT and AGL are both CRS Codes and so by the definition I found, don't think they count as abbreviations. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 17:10 #19866 | |
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jc92
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however uktm- can everyone understand them at face value? not really
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 17:16 #19869 | |
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Lordmwa
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I understand your issue but you could just put the code into National Rail and it will tell you what the station is. But as you say it would be easier and kinder to the general public if full names are used, Especially for the more obscure ones like those mark..... 
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 17:19 #19870 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:you could just put the code into National Railor into Google and on the first page you'll find a link onto the NRE website for the station! Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 17:22 #19871 | |
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jc92
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i didnt know what they were so i couldnt do that... i just dont see the point in being a smart a**e and putting fancy codes
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 17:35 #19875 | |
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Josie
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I'm inclined to agree with jc92 on this. I know the codes for my local stations and the ones I use semi-regularly (now and in the past), but very few others. If you're asking for information or help from people, you're already starting on the back foot - seems a bit unnecessary to expect them to go and look up more details before doing you a favour.
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| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 17:56 #19880 | |
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pbinnersley
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HGT = Harrogate, AGL = Abergele & Pensarn The Routing Guide gives routing points as: Harrogate = Leeds Group and York (York can not be used as the York-Shotton fare is higher than the Harrogate-Shotton fare). Abergele & Pensarn = Shotton Permited Routes between Leeds and shotton are given by maps LY+CG LY+CL LY+GM LY+ML LY+MS+CH NE+PS TP+CG TP+CL TP+GM TP+ML TP+MS+CH The relevant part of the maps are summarised below: CG = Shotton - Chester - Crewe - Preston(via Warrinton) or Preston (via Manchester) CL = Shotton - Chester - Runcorn (via Hooton or Direct) - Warrington - Blackburn (via Preston) or Manchester (via Earlestown) or Bolton (via Wigan) CH = Shotton - Chester - (Crewe or Liverpool-Hunts Cross or Liverpool-Huyton) GM = Shotton-Chester-Stockport-Machester- Halifax or Huddersfield or Blackburn LY = Leeds-(Bradford or Huddersfield) - Halifax - Manchester - Crewe, Liverpool (via Earlestown) or Hunts Cross(via Warrington) ML = Shotton - (Bidston or Wrexham-Chester) - Liverpool - (Wigan+Atherton or Wigan+Bolton or Earlestown)- Manchester MS = Runcorn - Crewe - Wilmslow - (stockport or Styal) - Manchester- (Huddersfield - Halifax) or (Stockport-Shefflied) NE = Leeds - York Doncaster (not via Wakefield) and Leeds-Bradford PS = Shotton - (direct or via Wrexham) - Chester - Manchester - Sheffield - Barnesley or (Swinton-Doncaster) TP = Leeds - Blackburn - Preston and Leeds - Stalybridge - Manchester - Liverpool (via Hunts Cross) - Hooton. Also Manchester-Crewe The only route is that you can't pass through the same station twice. This means that: Liverpool is a valid route is you go via Manchester. You can travel via Preston, but only if you then change at Warrington or Crewe. It seems that Harrogate-Leeds-York-Doncaster-Sheffield -Manchester-Chester-Shotton is a valid route (but not Harrogate-York or Leeds-Wakefield-Doncaster). Could somebody confirm this. ----------------------------- I am only a layman so please check any route you intend to use. I hope this serves as an example of how complex the routing guide can be, but that it can through up some very interesting (and "unreasonable"  routes. Peter. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Josie, welshdragon |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 18:01 #19882 | |
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headshot119
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It may well be valid going via Leeds - York ect. Though I think that one would be questioned. Just as I have been using a Hereford - Bristol ticket going via Birmingham. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 18:38 #19886 | |
Peter Bennet
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Convention would be to put the full name and the abbreviation on first use and then use the abbreviation thereafter. As in Harrogate (HGT) [or is it the other way round] anyway you get the point. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Josie |
| Re: Ticket Validity 22/08/2011 at 19:43 #19889 | |
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welshdragon
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Apologies, I was being silly again :angry: :blush: Thank you plannersky, I was not sure as there's engineering works between Warrington and Chester. Log in to reply |