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Hello - Birmingham New St. 23/11/2009 at 11:26 #4431
nroberts
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VERY nice!

Thanks Geoff. I only wish I lived in the UK and had a chance to attend the meets (14000 km is a bit to much of a strain on the job and the pocket) :D:/

Regards,

NR

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 23/11/2009 at 11:52 #4434
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Ooohhhhh... looking forward to this one. Many thanks Geoff.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 23/11/2009 at 14:18 #4439
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Wow !!. That was a surprise. This could be one of the busiest SimSigs yet. Nice one guys.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 23/11/2009 at 17:01 #4441
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Hmm,
Just saw the overview for BNS this looks rather complex but having had a trial go on thepc-rail version with less detail it seems like its stright forward but with lots of train movements durring the peak it can and prob will get very so may I say I am looking forward to this being released in the near future.

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 23/11/2009 at 18:37 #4445
Quizman
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jimgos2005 said:
had a trial go on thepc-rail version
Having used and written timetables for Sigcent version I think that Sigcent gives a better idea than pcrail. Now how does one convert timetable files..one to ponder on cold evenings.:rolleyes:

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 24/11/2009 at 03:26 #4461
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I didn't know that PC-Rail had one for Birmingham New Street....but there you go so really looking forward to this feast of delight from the team.

Geoff

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 24/11/2009 at 13:09 #4467
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They don't - AFAICT! Likewise looking forward to playing this one. I've always thought of New St station as "The Black Hole Of Birmingham"!

Re. B'ham New St panel vs. Saltley Panel - thanks Geoff for clearing up the confusion. I THINK you can guess what the next question wil be....!

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 25/11/2009 at 13:37 #4526
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outofsection said:
I THINK you can guess what the next question wil be....!
Even the thought of the potential question has set back the project by several months....

SimSig Boss
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 25/11/2009 at 17:57 #4532
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I'm under the impression the question was for a preview shot as posted for Birmingham - everyone knows that to ask anything about dates is now so disastrous as to make an extra deadly sin!
There's the right way, the wrong way and the railway.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 25/11/2009 at 18:36 #4533
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Am I right in thinking that on the overview shot on page 3 of this topic is Coventry to the left then Birmingham International(for airport I think) so the left direction would the UP and to the right would be Down then after BNS station the track splits into different directions when I went to Crewe recently I couldnt understand at first why we didnt pass BNS but I realise now that Crewe is on a different route I wasnt happy as I really wanted to take a look at this area with my own eyes has anyone any ideas as I dont think theres anything on youtube is there.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 11:26 #4556
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Coventry Fringe to the far left (Berkswell) [Stour Lines]
Top left is onto Saltley via Landor Street/St Andrews
Top right is towards the West Suburban (Five Ways, University)
Middle right is towards Wolverhampton (Dudley Port) [Stour Lines]
Bottom right is towards Bescot (and Wolverhampton via Darlaston)
Middle bottom, Aston Station, lines towards Stechford, Sutton Coldfield and Walsall.

Without drawing a quick map, hope above sort of makes sense.

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 11:35 #4558
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Yep that m,akes sense to me as I have seen BNS before on sigcent and pc rail cant wait for the SimSig version.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 11:40 #4559
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Here is a simple diagram for those who get lost north of the Watford Gap.


Click to enlarge, if it doesn't display correctly click link below
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3357/bhmsimples1.png

A very simple diagram of the layout drawn from memory, 7 years of working at New Street has finally come in useful.

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 11:49 #4560
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Without a doubt the SimSig version will be better, larger skill base on the developing side.

When this one does come to fruition, except some evil Multiplays, as I know the area like the back of my hand so will quiet easily get away with creating some chaos! [A normal day/sim from DazrahT some might say!]

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 12:15 #4561
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Now that's the way I always see BNS but, for the Sim you need to rotate the diagram by 180 to conform with the panel.

I'm good for the SW traffic (Gloucester and Worcester via the Stour Extension) but it's been a while since I looked at the rest.

Bring it on boy's.

Dave M.

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 12:16 #4562
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Nope, drawn as per panel, diagram is correct, albeit a simple one. You need to rotate 180° if you want it as it is on the ground in real life.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 12:26 #4563
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Oops. You beat me to the correction. Should have said as viewed by Google Earth and my sets of track diagrams.

Dave M

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 12:33 #4564
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Think that's confusing, from my Announcer days

"Yep that train will go out North (End) to Wolverhampton"

You can go North four ways to Wolverhampton from New Street
    Depart via Down Stour towards Soho to Wolverhampton

    Depart via Down Stour, turn right at Soho, turn left at Perry Barr via Bescot

    Depart via Proof House towards Hamstead - Bescot

    Depart via Proof House towards Hamstead, turn left at Perry Barr South, turn right at Soho East towards Wolverhampton


Confused! The first two you actually depart West, though referred to as the North End, the second two via Proof House, referred to as the South End, is actually East, which you also go North from.

I'll let you all catch up now!

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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 17:56 #4591
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Is it true that in the new street station confines there are no overlaps behind the signales, or is this just a rumor on the internet.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 26/11/2009 at 23:22 #4609
DazrahT
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That is correct, no overlaps and no AWS within station.
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 28/11/2009 at 13:26 #4653
Chrisrail
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And the A&D Book / Station "SIMPLIFIER" is thicker than war and peace
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 28/11/2009 at 15:02 #4656
DazrahT
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Was that a hint Chris! lol
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 03/12/2009 at 11:35 #4790
Chrisrail
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No Just some light reading
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 12/12/2009 at 23:35 #5029
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Chris reads station simplifiers for fun!
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Hello - Birmingham New St. 12/12/2009 at 23:51 #5030
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They make perfect sense after a couple of beers!
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