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| Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 15:18 #24359 | |
Roadrunner
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... and Neither Am I. To Site Admin: From the events of last Thursday evening, it seems that I am not allowed to write to the Guests viewing the website to ask them about hosting options or to sound-out people's availability using this space in the Hosting General Topics. The two moderators I have dealt with, KurtDS and PeterB, would not explain why that is so. It does help to understand and accept rules if you know why they are there. It does seem odd, when I can write to the Guests about any subject in other areas of the forum, but not about Hosting, here in the hosting section. My question to Site Admin is how can I use this space here in Hosting General Topics to speak to the Guests, so I will ask a few questions which I hope you will be able to answer. If I host a private, invitation only, multi-play game, can I give details here and invite people to apply? Along the lines of KX, date, time, send PM if you are interested. If the multi-play game is private and doesn't involve invitations, can I give details here? For example, KX, date, time. Are there any options regarding public games and the use of the Hosting General Topics? The aim is to get the info out to as many people as possible so that they can choose to join the game. Only a handful of people are ever viewing the Hosting Session Details section, while up to 500+ people sometimes are viewing the site and can see the Hosting General Topics. There doesn't seem to be any technical reason why Hosting General Topics can't be used in this way. There will be no replies from me to users who are only intent on disruption or causing arguments. I will wait to hear from Site Admin. Log in to reply |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 15:39 #24360 | |
Peter Bennet
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I must confess to being a little perplexed. From memory I noticed that your Hosting session advert appeared to have been mis-posted so moved it to the correct area as is normal. I think I move 1 or 2 topics around per week for that very reason. I then noticed that some sort of row seemed to have broken out with other posters, not sure exactly who was involved nor what it was about from memory, and then, as the night wore on, it appeared that you were not going to host and the exchanges were getting more heated so I closed the topic. Just for your future reference, as you are new here, anything to do with proposed hosting sessions is supposed to go on the "session details" topic. If you can ensure that you do that in future I'm sure everything will be OK and there will be no further misunderstandings. Thanks Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Last edited: 03/12/2011 at 16:04 by Peter Bennet Log in to reply The following user said thank you: agilchrist |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 16:23 #24363 | |
jc92
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i feel ever so slightly pedantic to be posting this but PeterB is another non-admin user IIRC (to clear things up)
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| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 16:29 #24364 | |
agilchrist
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Joe PeterB is a Site Administrator hence why he appears as RED when he posts and lurks. Blessed are the true believers, for only they shall walk the Path, and they shall be welcomed unto the realm of the Ori and made as one with Them. Log in to reply |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 16:29 #24365 | |
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Danny252
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" said:i feel ever so slightly pedantic to be posting this but PeterB is another non-admin user IIRC (to clear things up)"Peter Bennet Now Online Administrator" Log in to reply |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 16:31 #24366 | |
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jc92
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yes username peter bennett, not peterB (who is another user)
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| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 16:32 #24367 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Yes PeterB and I (Peter Bennet (one T)) are different persons. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 16:40 #24369 | |
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agilchrist
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Really and there I thought you were having a split personality I stand corrected and im over in the corner with the Dunce hat on. :blink: Blessed are the true believers, for only they shall walk the Path, and they shall be welcomed unto the realm of the Ori and made as one with Them. Log in to reply |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 17:41 #24373 | |
headshot119
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" said:The Session Details section of the forum is designed to be used to advertise games. It is not what the hosting general topics section is for, that is designed to ask questions regarding hosting such as problems with port forwarding and the like. If a user wants to play a multilayer game they will most likely register on the site. Many users do not like to publicly advertise there IP addresses (I am not one of them and couldn't care less who had my IP address.) This is the reason the session details section is only available to registered users. As for private games you'd be surprising how many of them happen. Many people use Skype to keep in touch away from the forum and no doubt set up private games on there. Those of us who use teamspeak also play the odd private game, usually when someone else is hosting to prevent us from "robbing" players from the other game. Regarding 500 people being online on the forum I'd take that with a PAA wagon full of salt. I hope that answers some of the questions. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Last edited: 03/12/2011 at 17:43 by headshot119 Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Sam Tugwell |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 17:57 #24375 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
275 posts |
Am I the only one who has no idea what this is all about?
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| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 18:08 #24377 | |
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derbybest
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Nope
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| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 18:25 #24379 | |
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Peter Bennet
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It appears to be something that's blown out of all proportion. Hopefully the misunderstanding is resolved. Nothing really to see so move along please. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 18:28 #24380 | |
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agilchrist
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" said:You sound like a policeman. 
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| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 03/12/2011 at 19:28 #24391 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:" said:Done my share of law enforcement!You sound like a policeman. :laugh: Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Last edited: 03/12/2011 at 19:50 by Peter Bennet Log in to reply |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 04/12/2011 at 00:07 #24411 | |
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UKTrainMan
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" said:If I host a private, invitation only, multi-play game, can I give details here and invite people to apply? Along the lines of KX, date, time, send PM if you are interested. I seem to recall this once happening before with another user trying/doing this by posting the details in the Session Details area of the forum and at the time it was decided that this wasn't right/fair as they were using the area to advertise the game but then only allowing certain people in. " said: If the multi-play game is private and doesn't involve invitations, can I give details here? For example, KX, date, time. How is it private then? " said: Are there any options regarding public games and the use of the Hosting General Topics? " said: The aim is to get the info out to as many people as possible so that they can choose to join the game. Only a handful of people are ever viewing the Hosting Session Details section, while up to 500+ people sometimes are viewing the site and can see the Hosting General Topics. There doesn't seem to be any technical reason why Hosting General Topics can't be used in this way. Roadrunner, it is my belief that you are going about this whole thing the wrong way, which is frustrating a number of other users (not an unfounded claim, before you try that again). I cannot see a reason why you couldn't post a thread in here (yes, the Hosting General Topics area) giving advice to guests about how to get involved in a multiplayer game. Explain to them that in order to do so they would need to register first, then they will automatically obtain access to the Session Details area in-which others post notifications of their hostings. You could even make a suggestion in the post that the thread is stickied by a moderator or admin so that it appears prominently at the top of the area. This should help guests who want to play in a multiplayer find out how to do so, and then you wouldn't have to frustrate other users by posting your hosting notifications in this area which is not meant for hosting notifications in the first place. Please consider this, and if you like it do it - if needed then you'll probably get my support for the thread to be stickied. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Last edited: 04/12/2011 at 17:16 by UKTrainMan Reason: formatting (no text/wording changed) Log in to reply The following users said thank you: BarryM, ipswich, Sam Tugwell, Prof Jolly |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 10/12/2011 at 14:29 #24825 | |
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Roadrunner
111 posts |
PeterB - Did you read the post at all? You didn't answer any of the questions asked or give any explanations. I am trying to find out how things work, but you aren't helping. The post asks some questions, the answers to which will give an understanding of how this site works. As far as I understand, I am not allowed to advertise multi-play games to guests, by using the Hosting General Topics section, even though there is no technical reason why this should be so. That does seem strange, as the majority of guests will be users who haven't logged-on yet or are users who have logged-on and been timed-out. So, why disadvantage guests/users in this way?
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| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 10/12/2011 at 15:32 #24827 | |
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ralphjwchadkirk
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" said:I am not allowed to advertise multi-play games to guests, by using the Hosting General Topics section, even though there is no technical reason why this should be so. There is a technical reason; the rules forbid it. End of. If users want to join hosted games then they are probably able to log on. I don't really want guest (i.e. everyone in the world) seeing my hosted IPs thanks. Log in to reply The following users said thank you: UKTrainMan, Prof Jolly, ipswich |
| Re: Guests Are Not the Enemy... 10/12/2011 at 18:57 #24830 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:PeterB - Did you read the post at all? You didn't answer any of the questions asked or give any explanations. I am trying to find out how things work, but you aren't helping. The post asks some questions, the answers to which will give an understanding of how this site works. As far as I understand, I am not allowed to advertise multi-play games to guests, by using the Hosting General Topics section, even though there is no technical reason why this should be so. That does seem strange, as the majority of guests will be users who haven't logged-on yet or are users who have logged-on and been timed-out. So, why disadvantage guests/users in this way?The forum has discrete areas for different things and anything directly related to a hosting session should be posted to the "session details". That's the way the majority of hosters want it and so it's the forum rule. There is little else to add I'm afraid. Thanks Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Prof Jolly |