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| dockers for big stations 30/03/2011 at 22:20 #2724 | |
Stevie G
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i find that with big stations if something fails aka points then i sometimes make platform alterations i then realise after sticking a set in a platform that it is needed by another train so dockers giving platform info would be handy Stevie G Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 30/03/2011 at 22:20 #14602 | |
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Stevie G
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i find that with big stations if something fails aka points then i sometimes make platform alterations i then realise after sticking a set in a platform that it is needed by another train so dockers giving platform info would be handy Stevie G Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 00:18 #14603 | |
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UKTrainMan
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"dockers"? Even online definitions don't explain it. :: Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 00:32 #14605 | |
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Josie
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I'm not sure what you mean by dockers, but WembleySub and newer sims have the Platform Occupancy dialogue (press F8 to see it) which lets you pick a platform and see the next trains that are due there.
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| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 01:34 #14608 | |
BarryM
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Uk, I'm surprised you have not heard of "docking a train". I do not think it is used in the Uk. Regards Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 05:47 #14610 | |
Peter Bennet
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The ones I have copies of are headed "docker" so it's an official term. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 06:01 #14611 | |
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BarryM
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I stand corrected. Thanks Peter. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 08:32 #14613 | |
postal
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Looks like the sort of thing that anyone prepared to put in the time and effort would be able to create. Is anyone from the number of people who support the idea willing to do the boring bits and then post (in the uploads section Mr. Mod?) for the benefit of everyone else?
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| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 09:24 #14615 | |
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kbarber
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Sounds like the sort of thing I'd have called a simplifier, in most cases prepared by the signalmen themselves. At Finchley Road (Midland) they used a train register to create a "minute-by-minute" book for the day shifts, IIRC they colour-coded each train according to the line it was to run on (and timetable changes were dealt with by means of tipp-ex & such). It was a bit of a labour of love (it would be even more so where freight was the major activity) but it certainly made life easier once it was done. At Euston (certainly in the mid-80s) the platform workings & variations from day to day were so complex that a simplifier was produced each day by someone in the Area Manager's Office. The resulting document was known as the Daily Orders in those days; it included such details as next workings as well as platform occupancy. I did see a copy the one time I visited but I don't recall the format. Never heard of "dockers" as a name for it though. Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 11:37 #14616 | |
GeoffM
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Glasgow Central had a dedicated person operating the Docker, at least during busy times. And yes it was most certainly called a Docker. In this case it consisted of a roll of paper that was scrolled using brass handles to the left as the hours progressed, with a clear Perspex cover. A chinagraph pencil was used to write on the Perspex so alterations could be made. I believe it, in one form or another, has migrated to the South West Scotland Signalling Centre.
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| dockers for big stations 31/03/2011 at 13:36 #14622 | |
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Peter Bennet
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I think a simplifier and a docker are two different things. The simplifier gives you a train order through a location; whereas the docker is an official publication of planned platform use at a station. I have one for Edinburgh - about 1/2 inch thick A5and for Queen Street- just a couple of A5 pages. The new f8 function essentially fulfils the same function and one of the SimSig timetable analyses tools will give you a platform by platform list of scheduled trains (where platforms are coded) which someone can manipulate into something useful if they wish. Peter P.S. The GLC docker machine is still in use at SWSSC having been shipped there from the old box. I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 04/06/2011 at 10:57 #16303 | |
Chrisrail
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One of the Girls at work does the Dockers for GLC on the LTP Plan and on a daily basis
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| dockers for big stations 04/06/2011 at 11:03 #16304 | |
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Danny252
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Chrisrail said:One of the Girls at work does the Dockers for GLC on the LTP Plan and on a daily basisNot entirely sure how this is at all relevant to a two-month-old thread about adding dockers to Simsig, but so be it... Log in to reply |
| dockers for big stations 04/06/2011 at 11:26 #16306 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Well we had moved on to discuss Glasgow Central docking in particular. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: dockers for big stations 30/11/2011 at 23:39 #24169 | |
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LordSven
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At Waterloo (Main) as recently 2009 a simplifier (title included Simplifier) was published (not sure by whom) and used almost religiously for platform allocation. To deviate from it required close and careful co-ordination to avoid chaos between inbound and outbound workings, joins, detachments, stock permitted in each platform etc. There was also a dedicated station working controller who liased with signalbox and other control staff as well as the station announcer and the informaion display system. A very capable, experienced and sometimes somewhat harassed individual!
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