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2012 18/01/2012 at 10:29 #27650
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Hi

2012 timetable uploaded...

A few problems with it:

Several Pendolinos are booked into Platform 18. Unforunately in the 1990s sim this platform is not long enough and trains will foul platform 17 but be clear inside
157 signal. You can choose whether to replatform these trains or let the trains stand foul.

Late running trains will turn back quickly, is there a way of having a universal rule for having a minimum turnback of 5 mins for all trains?

5S95 has loco dead on rear but SimSig thinks there is no engine once 0s26 is detached, so I have added an 0s25 from Wembley

Enjoy...

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Re: 2012 18/01/2012 at 11:43 #27660
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regarding 5s95, if you alter it to a straight forward split rather than detatch loco, the train wont need 0s25

for turnarounds, the default stop coding for euston isnt that long (clive can of course answer this)

i would suggest using the rule "train (outgoing train) must not depart from euston until 5 mins after train (incoming train) has arrived at euston

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Re: 2012 18/01/2012 at 14:22 #27673
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Is 17 the platform that isn't used much these days, or is that 7?
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Re: 2012 18/01/2012 at 14:39 #27676
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Thanks for the 5S95 tip.

I just wondered if I could avoid having to do 300 rules all saying 5 mins

Paul

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Re: 2012 18/01/2012 at 14:41 #27677
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All platforms are used these days but Pendos cant use 9,10,17
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Re: 2012 18/01/2012 at 20:02 #27720
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Sounds like a great timetable, so will be downloading it momentarily and giving it a blast soon. B)


" said:
I just wondered if I could avoid having to do 300 rules all saying 5 mins

Not yet, but following on from this thread, it will be added. Post #3. :cheer:

Until then, I'd certainly recommend following the advice in Post #2.

Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for.
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Re: 2012 29/01/2012 at 00:19 #28374
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I'm at 11:08 sim time and 1A16 (08:55 Man Picc - Euston 390) has entered about 11 down due to running loss of power. It's a Pendolino and is booked for Platform 18, so apart from the afore advised warning in the first post about Pendolinos in Platform 18, the platform is occupied anyway by 1U33 (11:46 Euston - Crewe 350 EMU). Just to advise others in-advance, I have checked F8 Simplifier and looks like Platform 7 might be best to use as it's not needed until 12:01 (by 09:55 Man Picc - Euston 390).

Anyway, I'm loving the timetable so far - I think it is quietly brilliant :cheer: B)

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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 13:56 #28556
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Hello,

This timetable is great, thank you to its creator! I have one query; it's 15.34 (sim time...) and I have train 1A38 (a Voyager) due to arrive shortly into platform 15, however I already have train 1S82 (a Pendolino) in platform 15, not booked out until 16.30 (the Voyager is booked out at 16.10).

Is it possible to get a Voyager and Pendolino into the platform at the same time? Or is this an error in the timetable?

Or have I altered the timetable and completely forgotten about it?!

Thanks

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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 18:54 #28585
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" said:
Hello,

This timetable is great, thank you to its creator! I have one query; it's 15.34 (sim time...) and I have train 1A38 (a Voyager) due to arrive shortly into platform 15, however I already have train 1S82 (a Pendolino) in platform 15, not booked out until 16.30 (the Voyager is booked out at 16.10).

Is it possible to get a Voyager and Pendolino into the platform at the same time? Or is this an error in the timetable?

Or have I altered the timetable and completely forgotten about it?!

Thanks
1A38 is just a single voyager (Well it is in real life). But I still don't think it will run on top of a Pendolino.

"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 19:00 #28589
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brilliant tt so far im currently 1345 sim time only thing is has NLL freight vanished?
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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 19:59 #28606
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@john havenhand
Thanks, sorry I only have passenger timings.
Update soon with Rules for turn round times at Euston.

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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 20:01 #28607
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" said:
" said:
Hello,

This timetable is great, thank you to its creator! I have one query; it's 15.34 (sim time...) and I have train 1A38 (a Voyager) due to arrive shortly into platform 15, however I already have train 1S82 (a Pendolino) in platform 15, not booked out until 16.30 (the Voyager is booked out at 16.10).

Is it possible to get a Voyager and Pendolino into the platform at the same time? Or is this an error in the timetable?

Or have I altered the timetable and completely forgotten about it?!

Thanks
1A38 is just a single voyager (Well it is in real life). But I still don't think it will run on top of a Pendolino.

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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 20:07 #28610
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@AlexH

I`ve checked timetable, 1610 shown as 1x5 voyager "Front 5 coaches only" so I guess it is correct.

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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 20:18 #28612
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" said:
" said:
Hello,

This timetable is great, thank you to its creator! I have one query; it's 15.34 (sim time...) and I have train 1A38 (a Voyager) due to arrive shortly into platform 15, however I already have train 1S82 (a Pendolino) in platform 15, not booked out until 16.30 (the Voyager is booked out at 16.10).

Is it possible to get a Voyager and Pendolino into the platform at the same time? Or is this an error in the timetable?

Or have I altered the timetable and completely forgotten about it?!

Thanks
1A38 is just a single voyager (Well it is in real life). But I still don't think it will run on top of a Pendolino.
There is no problem. Platform 15 is 460 m. long. 1A38 is 110 m. 1S82 is 215 m.

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Re: 2012 01/02/2012 at 20:51 #28618
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Thanks, sorry I only have passenger timings.
:whistle: http://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CMDNJN/2012/01/10/0430
You have to visit the main page and activate the advanced mode beforehand though.

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Re: 2012 02/02/2012 at 11:11 #28647
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" said:
Thanks, sorry I only have passenger timings.
:whistle: http://www.opentraintimes.com/location/CMDNJN/2012/01/10/0430
You have to visit the main page and activate the advanced mode beforehand though.
Thanks, Freights added to new update to be uploaded soon....

Paul

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Re: 2012 03/02/2012 at 11:40 #28704
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New Euston 2012 V1.3 uploaded, should appear shortly, in same place as original.
{uploaded - AndyG}
V1.3
Update: Rules for Euston added.
FO trains added (5B05,1P05,5K39,1H83)
Freight trains added.
More empty 378 services added.

Not fully tested, please report any problems/errors here.

Paul

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Re: 2012 03/02/2012 at 12:55 #28724
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" said:
New Euston 2012 V1.3 uploaded, should appear shortly, in same place as original.
{uploaded - AndyG}
V1.3
Update: Rules for Euston added.
FO trains added (5B05,1P05,5K39,1H83)
Freight trains added.
More empty 378 services added.

Not fully tested, please report any problems/errors here.

Paul
Does that mean 1K39 and 5K39 are set as the pretendolino?

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Re: 2012 03/02/2012 at 14:31 #28734
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" said:
New Euston 2012 V1.3 uploaded, should appear shortly, in same place as original.
{uploaded - AndyG}
V1.3
Update: Rules for Euston added.
FO trains added (5B05,1P05,5K39,1H83)
Freight trains added.
More empty 378 services added.

Not fully tested, please report any problems/errors here.

Paul
Does that mean 1K39 and 5K39 are set as the pretendolino?
Yes

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Re: 2012 04/02/2012 at 17:21 #28816
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" said:
New Euston 2012 V1.3 uploaded, should appear shortly, in same place as original.
{uploaded - AndyG}
V1.3
Update: Rules for Euston added.
FO trains added (5B05,1P05,5K39,1H83)
Freight trains added.
More empty 378 services added.

Not fully tested, please report any problems/errors here.

Paul
Hi Paul
enjoying this timetable quite alot, got euston all gridlocked cause of a few point failures, however one thing i've noticed, is that i'm having to every so often abandon rules because trains has been referenced to the wrong services.
So far i have noticed this with the following 2 trains
2K21 has a rule for not departing 4 mins after 2T12 arrives
it also has a rule with 1W84 which
2K21 is formed from 1W84, and after a little digging, i have found that 2T12 produces 2K211 (a service that departs over 12 hours after 2K21 does) I gues thats the problem here.
The other one was with 3J06, hes ruled to not leave till 3 mins after 2W63 arrives at euston, however 3J06 is formed from 2W53. 2W63 also arrvies over 2 hours after 3J06 is due to leave, i presume that in this case 2W63 should of been 2W53?

Hope theses are of help, will let you know any others as i find them.
Cheers
Nath

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Re: 2012 04/02/2012 at 23:40 #28836
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" said:
New Euston 2012 V1.3 uploaded, should appear shortly, in same place as original.
{uploaded - AndyG}
V1.3
Update: Rules for Euston added.
FO trains added (5B05,1P05,5K39,1H83)
Freight trains added.
More empty 378 services added.

Not fully tested, please report any problems/errors here.

Paul
Hi Paul
enjoying this timetable quite alot, got euston all gridlocked cause of a few point failures, however one thing i've noticed, is that i'm having to every so often abandon rules because trains has been referenced to the wrong services.
So far i have noticed this with the following 2 trains
2K21 has a rule for not departing 4 mins after 2T12 arrives
it also has a rule with 1W84 which
2K21 is formed from 1W84, and after a little digging, i have found that 2T12 produces 2K211 (a service that departs over 12 hours after 2K21 does) I gues thats the problem here.
The other one was with 3J06, hes ruled to not leave till 3 mins after 2W63 arrives at euston, however 3J06 is formed from 2W53. 2W63 also arrvies over 2 hours after 3J06 is due to leave, i presume that in this case 2W63 should of been 2W53?

Hope theses are of help, will let you know any others as i find them.
Cheers
Nath
Thanks Nath.
Yes 2W63 should be 2W53 in the rule.
There are a few more I`m afraid, I`ll upload another update when I`ve found them all.
Any other input very welcome.
Paul

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Re: 2012 05/02/2012 at 10:53 #28854
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Cheers Paul.
Found another 2
2t19 and 2t23 booths with similar errors in their rules. Will let you know of others as and when I find them
Nath

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Re: 2012 09/02/2012 at 08:26 #29179
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New update V1.35 uploaded...


Minor corrections.
FO trains 1A76,1C69 added
More empty 378 services added
1M55 1G38 FO amended to 10 Car 221

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Re: 2012 12/02/2012 at 10:29 #29316
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V1.35 still not appeared after 3 days, dont know if moderators have received it ok?
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Re: 2012 12/02/2012 at 11:40 #29321
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1.34 was awaiting approval- done- there was no 1.35.

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