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London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 08:54 #27927 | |
Class 92
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Would it be possible to do the London underground in places as a sim and also what about the Manchester Tramlink is that controlled by anyone if so would that be possible. Last edited: 22/01/2012 at 16:02 by Class 92 Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 09:50 #27929 | |
Stephen Fulcher
2055 posts |
The Waterloo and City line is already simulated (Drain).
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 09:56 #27931 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
" said:The Waterloo and City line is already simulated (Drain).i forgot about that one but i was meaning something a bit bigger like the district line Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 10:11 #27932 | |
moonraker
354 posts |
Wembley Suburban also has the Bakerloo Line from Queens Park to Harrow & Wealdstone. And NLL has a small section of the District Line from Gunnersbury Junction to Richmond.
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 10:58 #27933 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
Earls court would be a good sim
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 10:59 #27934 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
and what about Manchester Tramlink would that be possible
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 11:24 #27936 | |
Peter Bennet
5377 posts |
" said:and what about Manchester Tramlink would that be possibleAnything not on the banned list is possible. Though I'm not sure how Tramlink is controlled. In the city centre it's mainly traffic lights from memory. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 11:40 #27943 | |
Steamer
3958 posts |
" said:In the city centre it's mainly traffic lights from memory. EDITED: In the City Centre and the Eccles line beyond Pomona, it's white tram signals interlocked with traffic lights. Outside the city centre it's colour lights. Also, the system is called the "Metrolink", not Tramlink. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 22/01/2012 at 15:18 by Steamer Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 15:07 #27955 | |
58050
2652 posts |
Earl's Court has been done by PC-Rail simulations.
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 15:59 #27956 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
" said:" said:I didn't know whether it was Metrolink or tramlinkIn the city centre it's mainly traffic lights from memory. Last edited: 22/01/2012 at 16:00 by Class 92 Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 16:01 #27957 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
" said:Earl's Court has been done by PC-Rail simulations.I've played the demo of that one but the cost of there sims is stupid, plus half of them don't cover the whole area Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 16:06 #27958 | |
58050
2652 posts |
Yes likewise I've played the demo & agree with your sentiments.
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 16:09 #27959 | |
Sam Tugwell
493 posts |
Its the Croydon Tramlink and the Manchester Metrolink Sam "Signalman Exeter" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: UKTrainMan |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 16:22 #27960 | |
Josie
310 posts |
" said:" said:The white tram signals only provide signalling in relation to avoiding conflicting flows with other traffic - they don't provide any separation between trams. The Bury and Altrincham lines use automatic two-aspect colour lights, the Eccles and South Manchester lines work on line-of-sight principles - and I believe the plan is to make the Bury and Altrincham lines line-of-sight as well when they (eventually) roll out the new Tram Management System.In the city centre it's mainly traffic lights from memory. Hagside level crossing (near Bury) has a crossing box but I think it's now CCTV-controlled. There are two more level crossings near Navigation Road but I believe they both belong to Network Rail because the Stockport-Altrincham line also runs over them. So seeing as a Metrolink sim would probably consist entirely of answering the phone to hacked-off passengers when the service falls over yet again, I don't think you'll be seeing one any time soon Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 17:14 #27965 | |
Steamer
3958 posts |
" said:Hagside level crossing (near Bury) has a crossing box but I think it's now CCTV-controlled. ere are two more level crossings near Navigation Road but I believe they both belong to Network Rail because the Stockport-Altrincham line also runs over them. According to Trackmaps, Hagside is CCTV. Apparently, there is a Metrolink/Network Rail boundry 11 chains south of Timperly, where I assume control is handed over to Deansgate Junction signalbox. " said: The Bury and Altrincham lines use automatic two-aspect colour lights, the Eccles and South Manchester lines work on line-of-sight principles - and I believe the plan is to make the Bury and Altrincham lines line-of-sight as well when they (eventually) roll out the new Tram Management System. Does this mean that trams will not be separated at all? Sounds a bit daft for the Bury/Altrincham lines where the speed limit is 50mph. I suppose the speed limit would be lowered, with the knock-on effect of increasing journey times? "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 17:15 #27966 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
Is Liverpool Metro auto i don't think it is because i think I've seen a video
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 17:33 #27968 | |
Peter Bennet
5377 posts |
" said:Is Liverpool Metro auto i don't think it is because i think I've seen a videoDo you mean Mersyrail? Of so it's controlled by Sandhills IECC and is on the "can't do" list. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Tramlink 22/01/2012 at 17:39 #27970 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
" said:" said:Sorry didn't see that on list before i posted :blush:Is Liverpool Metro auto i don't think it is because i think I've seen a videoDo you mean Mersyrail? Of so it's controlled by Sandhills IECC and is on the "can't do" list. Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 18:03 #27973 | |
Josie
310 posts |
" said:Does this mean that trams will not be separated at all? Sounds a bit daft for the Bury/Altrincham lines where the speed limit is 50mph. I suppose the speed limit would be lowered, with the knock-on effect of increasing journey times?Presumably so, certainly around tunnels and blind bends. I can't find a reliable source for it right now, but there's been talk about it for some time on the uk.railway Usenet group and on the various Metrolink threads on SkyscraperCity. Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 18:10 #27974 | |
jc92
3649 posts |
theres no seperation of trams in sheffield, except in the city centre due to traffic lights and road crossings, the line from nunnery to meadowhall is mostly 40mph drive on sight throughout
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 18:14 #27975 | |
benstafford
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Croydon Tramlink runs on Line of Sight at up to 50mph. Those trams can stop a lot quicker than a train and probably quicker than a bus as well, but don't quote me on that.
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 18:23 #27976 | |
Class 92
359 posts |
" said:Croydon Tramlink runs on Line of Sight at up to 50mph. Those trams can stop a lot quicker than a train and probably quicker than a bus as well, but don't quote me on that.What about Blackpool trams, that's if anyone knows Log in to reply |
Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 18:40 #27980 | |
jc92
3649 posts |
the system is AFAIK drive on sight, on the basis...they dont really go fast enough to warrant full block signalling!
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Re: London Underground and Manchester Metrolink 22/01/2012 at 19:37 #27983 | |
Steamer
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" said:What about Blackpool trams, that's if anyone knows Line-of-Sight, although they've recently installed point indicators and (I assume) point motors (they were previously operated by a bloke and a stick). They've also put some tram bar signals in at some level crossings- in the past I think trams were signalled by normal traffic lights! jc92 said: the system is AFAIK drive on sight, on the basis...they dont really go fast enough to warrant full block signalling! They are speeding up- apparently as part of the upgrade, about 1/2 the stops have been removed (so they now stop at every other gas lamp), and they've re-laid a good proportion of the track. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 22/01/2012 at 19:37 by Steamer Log in to reply |