Trains to High Marnham / Mansfield Colliery

Evening all, I'm looking at writing a timetable loosely based on the 1980s for the Worksop sim, I am having trouble finding out how I would send trains into Mansfield Colliery and also down to High Marnham / Ollerton both of which were both open in the 1980s.

Thanks in advance

Richard

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Evening all, I'm looking at writing a timetable loosely based on the 1980s for the Worksop sim, I am having trouble finding out how I would send trains into Mansfield Colliery and also down to High Marnham / Ollerton both of which were both open in the 1980s.

Thanks in advance

Richard

some timing points are missing (you cant access rufford stacking or bilsthorpe), as is mansfield concentration sidings

the line to high marnham is completely missing and so cant be used (you could seed stuff from thoresby)

also missing are thurcroft and dinnington collierys, and kiveton park isnt usable as an entrance location

and shireoaks Colliery.

jc92 in post 120045 said:

and shireoaks Colliery.

I think Shireoaks had gone by 1990 Joe. I don't recall reporting trains in or out of there.

Phil-jmw in post 120050 said:

jc92 in post 120045 said:

and shireoaks Colliery.

I think Shireoaks had gone by 1990 Joe. I don't recall reporting trains in or out of there.

Right on the ball, Phil - though the article doesn't state when rail service ceased or the rail link was disconnected.

The developer for Worksop no longer develops simulations for SimSig, but we're working on getting maintenance/support for the sim.

When I worked at Nott'm ROC in the mid 1990s MGR trains were still running to High Marnham Power Station with Worksop drivers. You'd be surprised what was still in use then.

When I worked at Nott'm ROC in the mid 1990s MGR trains were still running to High Marnham Power Station with Worksop drivers. You'd be surprised what was still in use then.

58050 in post 120067 said:

When I worked at Nott'm ROC in the mid 1990s MGR trains were still running to High Marnham Power Station with Worksop drivers. You'd be surprised what was still in use then.

I assume "ROC" meant something different in the mid 90's to NR's current use of the acronym?

When Stratford Roc closed in 1995 we were moved under redundancy arragements to Nottingham(Furlong House) to take up positions in the new Nottingham Regional Operations Centre(ROC) in Furlong House (Mainline Freight). I went there as Resources Manager dealing with the alocation of power to services throughout the whole of the Mainline Freight area. Which covered all of the East Midlands pits along with the whole of the South East of the country & Wessex. As you say Phil there was an alot of MGR traffic running to & from the various pits to all the power stations such as High Marnham, West Burton, Cottam, Ratcliffe, Ironbridge, Rugeley & Didcot. In fact the coal traffic actually increased to a peak in around beyond 2001. I ended up on the power desk in the CSDC in Doncaster covering the Yorkshire/Humberside & East Midlands which was the busiest desk out of the 5 loco control power desks there, with over 600 allocations within a 24 hour period due to the high density of MGR traffic between pits, power station & back to pits. Around the mid 1990s there were around 12 Cl.58 locos along with 4 Cl.60 locos out based at Worksop dealing with MGR traffic on a daily basis. The difference between AOC & ROC is that one covered an area whereas the other dealt with a whole region. Basically when BR was privatised the structure of the former BR REgional Control changed as the seperate companies formed there own versions of the former BR Regional Control offices until 1997 when we were all moved into the CSDC at Doncaster.

58050 in post 120076 said:

When Stratford Roc closed in 1995 we were moved under redundancy arragements to Nottingham(Furlong House) to take up positions in the new Nottingham Regional Operations Centre(ROC) in Furlong House (Mainline Freight). I went there as Resources Manager dealing with the alocation of power to services throughout the whole of the Mainline Freight area. Which covered all of the East Midlands pits along with the whole of the South East of the country & Wessex. As you say Phil there was an alot of MGR traffic running to & from the various pits to all the power stations such as High Marnham, West Burton, Cottam, Ratcliffe, Ironbridge, Rugeley & Didcot. In fact the coal traffic actually increased to a peak in around beyond 2001. I ended up on the power desk in the CSDC in Doncaster covering the Yorkshire/Humberside & East Midlands which was the busiest desk out of the 5 loco control power desks there, with over 600 allocations within a 24 hour period due to the high density of MGR traffic between pits, power station & back to pits. Around the mid 1990s there were around 12 Cl.58 locos along with 4 Cl.60 locos out based at Worksop dealing with MGR traffic on a daily basis. The difference between AOC & ROC is that one covered an area whereas the other dealt with a whole region. Basically when BR was privatised the structure of the former BR REgional Control changed as the seperate companies formed there own versions of the former BR Regional Control offices until 1997 when we were all moved into the CSDC at Doncaster.

I stand corrected Pascal. I didn't realise it had expanded in the way you describe from AOC to ROC. You also told me something else I didn't know, which is that the coal traffic actually increased up to 2001. I always thought it had been in a slow but steady decline since the 1980's. There were less pits to cover in Nottingham TOPS in 1990 than there had been 5 years previously covered by Worksop, Shirebrook and Toton TOPS offices, and the number of Vale of Trent power stations was also in decline during the 1990's, with the closure of Castle Donington, Willington, Drakelow and Staythorpe.