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| Headcodes for London Overground 15/02/2012 at 13:05 #29488 | |
Muzthing
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Hi, Does anyone know the form of headcodes used by the London Overground services? I'm particularly interested in services to/from Clapham Junction for a new TT I'm writing for the Waterloo sim. I heard a rumour that they had fairly recently started using 9xxx headcodes to avoid confusion with Southern and South Eastern services. If anyone knows anything about London Overground empty stock moves that would be helpful too. Thanks, Muzthing Log in to reply |
| Re: Headcodes for London Overground 15/02/2012 at 13:10 #29489 | |
Peter Bennet
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Try http://jplanner.travelinenortheast.info/planner I found 2Nxx is used for trains from Richmond for example. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Re: Headcodes for London Overground 15/02/2012 at 13:55 #29493 | |
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Late Turn
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opentraintimes.com gives details of ECS moves (click 'normal' at the top right to switch to advanced mode). You'll see from there that LOROL trains to/from Clapham Jn run as 2Yxx. Various combinations of 9Axx, 9Bxx, 9Cxx, 9Dxx, 9Exx and 9Fxx appear on the former East London Line.
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| Re: Headcodes for London Overground 15/02/2012 at 19:43 #29516 | |
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mfcooper
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2Lxx is used from Clapham Jn to Stratford, to distinguish between trains going through Willesden from Clapham (L) or those terminating (Y). So, for a Waterloo SimSig TT, all LOROL trains arriving at Clapham Jn will be 2Yxx (from Willesden or from Stratford), and departing trains will be 2Yxx for willesden terminators, and 2Lxx for through trains. [NB: in 2011/2012. I think some from Stratford to Clapham used to run as 2Oxx in 2010] 2Nxx run Richmond to Stratford, so won't be seen in Waterloo SimSig, and all 9's run to/from the current ELL, nowhere near Waterloo. NB: East London Line desrciption... 9Axx = ELL to Crystal Palace, 9Bxx = return 9Cxx = ELL to West Croydon, 9Dxx = return 9Exx = ELL to New Cross, 9Fxx = return I *think* that 9Gxx = ELL to New Cross Gate only, and 9Hxx is return, but I cannot be sure. Empties use 3Xxx. Don't know what the plan is for when the service is introduced from the ELL via the South London Line (Peckham Rye, Denmark Hill, Wandsworth Road) to Clapham Jn What date are you writing the timetable for? Last edited: 15/02/2012 at 19:51 by mfcooper Log in to reply |
| Re: Headcodes for London Overground 15/02/2012 at 21:47 #29521 | |
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Underwood
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For Empty stock try: http://www.opentraintimes.com/ If it's for Waterloo sim, I doubt there is empty turns, as the Willesden - Clapham shuttle generally starts at Willesden so would just come from the TMD there (though I would happily stand to be corrected there). Having a glance on Open train times, there appears to be some Southern services that come empty from Selhurst that use P1 at CJ Log in to reply |
| Re: Headcodes for London Overground 16/02/2012 at 00:56 #29531 | |
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mfcooper
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There are at least 2, possibly 3, empties from Willesden TMD or Euston to Clapham Jn in the morning. These also act as route learning trips for the drivers going via the WCML, rather than Willesden Jn. The first Southern service of the morning runs empties from Selhurst (via Streatham, Tulse Hill, Herne Hill, Wandsworth Road) to Latchmere Jn, where it reverses into Platform 1 (recently re-numbered from 2) and starts there for Watford or Milton Keynes - I can't remember the destination off hand. Log in to reply |
| Re: Headcodes for London Overground 16/02/2012 at 20:54 #29605 | |
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Muzthing
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Ah I was not aware of opentraintimes. That will give me all the information I need since I'm actually just writing the TT for the present day. So luckily I don't need to worry about through trains for now! Thanks everyone Mz Log in to reply |
| Re: Headcodes for London Overground 21/02/2012 at 07:32 #29750 | |
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mfcooper
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Empties to CLJ Plat 1 (formally 2) 5M01 04:10 Selhurst Depot to CLJ Latchmere Jn - 04/55 CLJ - 04:57 Forms: 2M01 (Southern to Watford Jn) 5O98 05:24 Kensal Green Turnback to CLJ Latchmere Jn - 05/39 CLJ - 05:41 Forms 2Y98 5O50 05:45 Kensal Green Turnback to CLJ Latchmere Jn - 06/00 CLJ - 06:02 Forms 2L50 3O54 06:00 Camden Road to CLJ Latchmere Jn - 06/33 CLJ - 06:35 Forms 2L54 Log in to reply |