Tail Lamps - Network Rail

Dear all,

I seem to be noticing an increasing number of Network Rail Tail Lamps without the reflective strip. Was wondering if this is just coincidence, or if NR (or any higher power) have decided to do away with the reflective strip?

Added:
If anyone here abouts knows anything...

...but in the middle of the day there's very little point in sending 7...

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...but in the middle of the day there's very little point in sending 7...

9 bells, surely?

Incidentally, the RSSB Rule Book makes no reference to time of day, so it seems that they should be lit at all times. Our (GCR) tail lamps aren't lit duing daylight hours though (and I've never felt the urge to send 9 bells forward as a result!)

Incidentally, the RSSB Rule Book makes no reference to time of day, so it seems that they should be lit at all times. Our (GCR) tail lamps aren't lit duing daylight hours though (and I've never felt the urge to send 9 bells forward as a result!)

Given all the I.E.C.C.'s etc., covering 100's of route miles, from afar, I can imagine that there are many instances where the tail-lamp is never seen. (by anyone other than the train preparer etc.) Lit or unlit. Reflective strip or not.

Personally, if there was no tail lamp at all, then 9 and 4-5 would be sent each way respectively, but for an unlit tail lamp that is clearly there, I would just send 7 to box in advance (and have!), as pointed out by others.

I shall take it then, until suggested otherwise, that any tail lamps without the strip are simply missing the strip, and there is no wonderful elongated notice explaining otherwise? But thank you to those that have answered, and commented.

" said:

Personally, if there was no tail lamp at all, then 9 and 4-5 would be sent each way respectively, but for an unlit tail lamp that is clearly there, I would just send 7 to box in advance (and have!), as pointed out by others.

9 forward and tell signaller in advance tail lamp is present but out, 2-1 back not 7 forward. (unless of course a door is hanging open where the guard has fallen out trying to turn the tail lamp on )
regulation 6 in module TS3.

6.4 If a train passes with a portable tail lamp out
If a train passes with a portable tail lamp on the rear but it is out and you cannot deal with the train yourself, or to do so would mean bringing the train to a sudden stop, you must:
• send train out of section to signal box A as shown in regulation 3.2
• send train passed without tail lamp (9) to signal box C
• tell the signaller at signal box C the tail lamp is out.
You do not need to caution the first train on the opposite line.

Note: This general signalling regulation does not apply if a train or vehicle is proceeding without authority (train signalling regulation 5) or if a tail lamp is missing or unlit (train signalling regulation 6), in which case you should carry out the instructions in the specific regulation to be found in modules TS2 to TS5 or TS7 or TS8.

NYMR doesn't use the RGS rulebook...so in my opinion I did correct. But hey ho.

Personally, if there was no tail lamp at all, then 9 and 4-5 would be sent each way respectively, but for an unlit tail lamp that is clearly there, I would just send 7 to box in advance (and have!), as pointed out by others.

If a Signalman observes or becomes aware of anything unusual in a train during ifs passage, such as signals of alarm, goods falling of, a vehicle on fire, a hot axle-box or other mishap (except a tail lamp missing, tail larnp out or a divided train for which see Regulations 19 and 20), he must, after the Traln Entering Section signal has been acknowledged send to the Signalman in advance the Stop and Examine Train signal. The Signalman in advance must also be advised of the reason for sending the Stop and Examine Train signal.

Should a train pass without a tail lamp or the Signalman be unable to satisfy himself whether or not that tail lamp is on the train, he must irnmediately send the Train Passed Without Tail lamp signal (9 consecutively) to the token station in advance. He must not place the token in the instrument, nor send the Train Out of Section signal to the token station on rear, but must send the Train Passed Without Tail lamp signal (4-5).

Should a train pass with a tail light out when it should be burning, and the Signalman can plainly see the lamp and is satisfied that the train is complete, or should a freight tain pass with side lamp missing when it should be exhibited or with side light out when it should be burning or with incorrect side light or lamp exhibited, the Signalman must send the Train Out of Section signal to the token station in rear, and the Train Passed Without Tail lamp signal (9 consecutively) to the token stadon in advance, and where practicable also advise the Signalman in advance of the circumstances.

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Should a train pass with a tail light out when it should be burning, and the Signalman can plainly see the lamp and is satisfied that the train is complete, or should a freight tain pass with side lamp missing when it should be exhibited or with side light out when it should be burning or with incorrect side light or lamp exhibited, the Signalman must send the Train Out of Section signal to the token station in rear, and the Train Passed Without Tail lamp signal (9 consecutively) to the token stadon in advance, and where practicable also advise the Signalman in advance of the circumstances.