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I think they should do it this way in the UK?

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I think they should do it this way in the UK? 02/06/2012 at 19:35 #32722
Class 92
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I think it should be done like this i the UK.

http://youtu.be/qFE8nmKpmXY

Last edited: 02/06/2012 at 19:39 by Class 92
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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 02/06/2012 at 19:50 #32723
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What a magic piece of kit! It doesn't mess about.
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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 02/06/2012 at 19:50 #32724
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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 02/06/2012 at 20:08 #32725
y10g9
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If your saying that track replacement should be carried out by use of a track renewal train in the uk, then you need to go away and actually do some research before you tell us it should be done that way since it already is done that way in the uk and has been for probably about 10 year!!!!
A simple search of network rail trt brings up these photos


and many more (although less than there usedto be after fotopic closed down (i think thats waht the site was called))

This page also has a load of photos on it of both the TRT and HOBC trains
http://www.tauntontrains.co.uk/THENNOW-40STEPS.htm

The one main problem with TRT and HOBc trains though are that they are only able to renew plain line.

A program of upgrading the WCML was on a a few years ago, which feature the TRT train in one of its many section. first part is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss5Qaewcs8

Last edited: 02/06/2012 at 20:08 by y10g9
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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 02/06/2012 at 21:27 #32727
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Two things, it's not clear to me from any of the videos how the front of the machine works. Is it sitting on the old rail that's pulled out from under it somehow, or is it on some sort of rubber tyre. Also could not help noticing that despite all that automation the clips still needed to be put in place by hand.

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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 02/06/2012 at 21:45 #32728
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The NTCM (New Track Construction Machine) used on the A2B Project has a pair of caterpillar tracks on the front which supports the machine on the empty trackbed. The rear of the front vehicle is (as far as I am aware) conventional flanged wheels. I think the ties are placed by a worker and the machine then fixes them in place.

Edit: here's a pic.



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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 03/06/2012 at 07:27 #32729
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Peter, the train sloppyjag put up has catapillar tracks at the front because it is laying brand new track on an empty trackbed, where as the photos and the video i put up, the train is pulled and pushed by class 66 locomotives (normally provided by freightliner). On the version that is renewing the track rather than laying new track on an empty bed, the front loco is then followed by the wagons of new sleepers. This is then followed by the buisness end of the train (the part which removes the old rail, lifts the sleepers, levels out the balast, lays new sleepers, lays and attaches new rail) followed by a few additional wagons with equipment in followed by a second class 66 locomotive.
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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 03/06/2012 at 10:38 #32735
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" said:
If your saying that track replacement should be carried out by use of a track renewal train in the uk, then you need to go away and actually do some research before you tell us it should be done that way since it already is done that way in the uk and has been for probably about 10 year!!!!
I mean do they do it as quick in this country i know that they use on track machines.

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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 03/06/2012 at 11:39 #32736
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what do you mean by do they do it as quick? compared to basically laying it by hand, no of course
the speed at which the on track machines vary anyway depending on where there working. if there working in a straight relatively flat piece of track, it takes far less time to renew as compared to a tight twisty piece of track with 800 points and crossing on it.

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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 03/06/2012 at 15:26 #32741
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Good point didn't think of that.
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Re: I think they should do it this way in the UK? 07/06/2012 at 12:28 #32870
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How it was done in 1956:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PZtZ0cCJU8&feature=related

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