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Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 09:38 #32772
alvinhochun
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I was hosting multiplay taking panel 5, another one taking panel 6.
When 2E15 is waiting at signal 673, I suddenly receive a call from it, which it was ought to be transferred to panel 6.

Last edited: 05/06/2012 at 09:39 by alvinhochun
Reason: changed a word playing -> hosting

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 14:10 #32782
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Can you confirm that whoever was on Workstation/Panel 6 was in control of it via Workstation Control? If they weren't then all calls would have gone through to the host.

I'll do some testing in the mean time...

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 14:11 #32783
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i was on panel 6 and was in control of the workstation.
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 14:18 #32786
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" said:
i was on panel 6 and was in control of the workstation.
Thanks. Testing rigorously as I type

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 15:09 #32796
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Bug confirmed. Copied to bug board (#7292), with credit where credit is due.

Thanks.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 17:26 #32815
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where can one find the bug boards?
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 17:33 #32816
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Only developers and testers can find them.
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 18:30 #32826
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" said:
Only developers and testers can find them.
Ah.

" said:
(#7292)
That's a lot of bugs!

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 21:48 #32830
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That's a lot of bugs!
Shows how much work gets done by the developers and testers before a sim sees the light of day.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 05/06/2012 at 23:03 #32831
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That's a lot of bugs!
Note that it's all simulations, all timetables developed by devs and testers, code, and ideas for the future. Some are questions rather than bugs. And it goes back 4.5 years. Some issues relating to core code get reported on each sim that it's discovered on before they get consolidated, though the numbers don't change.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 06/06/2012 at 01:26 #32833
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Also, if the forum is anything to go by whenever a new sim is released, a good few of those bugs will not be bugs at all.
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 06/06/2012 at 07:29 #32842
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Another wrong call:
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2N13 delayed at Hove due to train requiring attention from a fitter, expected to depart at about 11:40. Do you wish to replace signal S677 back to danger?

received by panel 5 (server) again.
It's at Hove P3.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 06/06/2012 at 07:30 #32844
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and i was on panel 6 again, if that helps. In control of the workstation.

Signal was Hove 667.

Last edited: 06/06/2012 at 07:50 by guidomcc
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 06/06/2012 at 08:12 #32845
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Sig 669 also not redirected.

And I don't think that is 667, should be 677.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 06/06/2012 at 17:59 #32859
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Thanks again for the latest reports on wrong calls. Further testing will be carried out and if reproducible (not that I doubt your reports) then will be filed on bug board.
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 07:59 #32861
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OK, today the server isn't taking ANY of the panels, but now 2D18 is stuck at LW8 (because all trains in front can't move, well...) and the call isn't redirected to any of the panels, instead the server get the call. Is it intended?

P.S. the savestate is available in the hosting section.

Perhaps all the calls have to be reviewed and checked.

Last edited: 07/06/2012 at 08:10 by alvinhochun
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 11:02 #32863
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I guess you could argue since LW8 isn't actually on any of the panels it goes to the host.. but surely it would be more logical for it to go to the panel 6 player? Furthermore, is it possible to have a failure on this signal?
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 11:52 #32864
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"External" signals often go to the host.
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 12:01 #32866
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As SLW8 is in the Signal List, one would assume that it is subject to failure unless it is programmed not to.
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 12:08 #32868
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I thought External signals did not call in at all I certainly remember raising the question a while back - I'd have to have a dig around and see what's what later.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 13:42 #32874
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LW8 is not even shown on the panel that I can see, so it would hopefully not fail!

I also seem to recall something (possibly in the features wish list) that external signals not phoning in was discussed, but as far as I am aware nothing had been implemented on any released sim. Saltley (2.232 core code, and the latest released version) still has the odd train phoning in from Stourbridge signals when trains back up going in to Snow Hill.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 14:16 #32876
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" said:
LW8 is not even shown on the panel that I can see
the train in question, 2D18, was in the 'APPR' berth at the time that it called, so presumably it is the last hidden signal.

" said:
so it would hopefully not fail!
Can't see any way of testing this This calls for a long session with failures right up! :evil:

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 14:26 #32878
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" said:
" said:
LW8 is not even shown on the panel that I can see
the train in question, 2D18, was in the 'APPR' berth at the time that it called, so presumably it is the last hidden signal.

" said:
so it would hopefully not fail!
Can't see any way of testing this This calls for a long session with failures right up! :evil:
Or you could hit F11, hit the signals tab, scroll down to SLW8, tick hold at red, and wait for a train to enter.*

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 15:17 #32880
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I did knock the lamp proving out in an attempt to locate the signal as well as the conventional right-click method which is what led me to conclude that it was not visible on the panel.

After holding the signal at red and having a test train enter at Lewes East Coast then the train did stop at the signal and phone in.

This is not a sim-specific bug, more a core code issue regarding external signals I believe.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 15:31 #32881
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Would you expect that driver phoning in if chaining with Lewes? (I mean when Lewes is completed and released)
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