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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 15:32 #32882
Peter Bennet
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Just had a look at one of mine and I've explicitly disabled external calls in it. The one I was thinking of was here you ask a driver to examine the line and phone in- if the next signal is someone else's then the train should stop for a moment and then restart with no call to you. Don't think it calls the other box either in M/Play though.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 16:04 #32883
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On Swindid, there is quite a large section of track shown outside the area of control, which has many grey signals. Can these have failures?
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 16:09 #32884
Stephen Fulcher
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Peter is the expert on SwinDid, but from memory, I do not believe I have ever seen one fail.
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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 07/06/2012 at 19:10 #32892
Peter Bennet
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On Swindid, there is quite a large section of track shown outside the area of control, which has many grey signals. Can these have failures?
Failures are a different thing.

Regarding calls, I've just had a look and it's a bit hit and miss it appears. For example trains entering at Chipping Sodbury have calls enabled at Sig 133 but they were never disabled. Just run it and blocked the line resulting in a call from Sig UB98, thus proving that calls are not automatically disabled on external signals.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 08/06/2012 at 20:28 #32932
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The one I was thinking of was here you ask a driver to examine the line and phone in- if the next signal is someone else's then the train should stop for a moment and then restart with no call to you.
In reality, would you not then expect the fringe box to call the 'sim' box? I'd have thought it's most important for the signaller in rear to know that the line's clear.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 08/06/2012 at 20:31 #32933
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The one I was thinking of was here you ask a driver to examine the line and phone in- if the next signal is someone else's then the train should stop for a moment and then restart with no call to you.
In reality, would you not then expect the fringe box to call the 'sim' box? I'd have thought it's most important for the signaller in rear to know that the line's clear.
Don't know of many signal post telephones with a dialing function! I'd expect a call from the box in advance to pass on the message.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 08/06/2012 at 21:38 #32938
Peter Bennet
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" said:
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The one I was thinking of was here you ask a driver to examine the line and phone in- if the next signal is someone else's then the train should stop for a moment and then restart with no call to you.
In reality, would you not then expect the fringe box to call the 'sim' box? I'd have thought it's most important for the signaller in rear to know that the line's clear.

Ideally but this is the way it is.


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Don't know of many signal post telephones with a dialing function! I'd expect a call from the box in advance to pass on the message.

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Peter

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 08/06/2012 at 23:49 #32941
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Don't know of many signal post telephones with a dialing function! I'd expect a call from the box in advance to pass on the message.
That's what I was saying :)

" said:
Ideally but this is the way it is.
Fair enough.

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 09/06/2012 at 17:13 #32958
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I did knock the lamp proving out in an attempt to locate the signal as well as the conventional right-click method which is what led me to conclude that it was not visible on the panel.

After holding the signal at red and having a test train enter at Lewes East Coast then the train did stop at the signal and phone in.

This is not a sim-specific bug, more a core code issue regarding external signals I believe.
In this particular case, the signal is defined (wrongly) as not being external. As far as I can tell, there shouldn't be any calls from signals that are defined as external. So it's a sim data issue here!

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Re: Wrong call on Brighton 09/06/2012 at 20:51 #32961
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Don't know of many signal post telephones with a dialing function! I'd expect a call from the box in advance to pass on the message.
That's what I was saying :)
But not what I was reading!

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