Wembley Suburban - Routesetting into Camden Jn

Have a look at Clive's website (the developer of Wembley Suburban SimSig) for the manual...

http://www.davros.org/rail/SimSig/wembleysub-manual.html

Manual: "If a train with an LU headcode is signalled towards Kilburn High Road from signal 4 (Queens Park Up line), signal 2 will revert to red and stay so until the train has reversed (more precisely, until signal 7 has been cleared and then the platform is unoccupied)."
Is this the problem?

If a train with an LU headcode is signalled towards Kilburn High Road from signal 4 (Queens Park Up line), signal 2 will revert to red and stay so until the train has reversed.

The manual does not mention the incorrect route setting alert.

Does this render the manual's advice unnecessary?

However, there are one or two LU trains a day in the supplied timetable which are actually scheduled to reverse at Kilburn High Road, presumably either route learners or rusty rail moves.

Jan said in post #10

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However, there are one or two LU trains a day in the supplied timetable which are actually scheduled to reverse at Kilburn High Road, presumably either route learners or rusty rail moves.

In the default timetable I did come across T214-J (4DC power) which does just this. It departs StoneBridge LU depot at about 10 PM and terminates at Kilburn to become S214-K, which goes back down the line to return to StoneBridge depot. Presumably a late night train with few passengers. So it seems not all LU trains passing through Queens Park end up joining the Bakerloo line. There may be others with T headcodes in the default TT. Be warned.

You have the option of either apologising and cancelling the route and then setting the correct one (no ACOA penalty, but you will of course have to wait for the approach locking to time out before the route can be re-set), or you can tell him to abandon his timetable, in which case the train will carry on in the same direction until it falls off the simulation (it will still obey signal aspects, F2 controls still work etc.).

To really spell it out, signal 2 will not clear until a route has been set from signal 7 to signal 11 AND the Camden side of Queens Park platform 4 is empty. Setting such a route immediately clears signal 2 for Camden-bound AC-3DC-powered trains, i.e., with a "2Cnn" headcode.

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Jan said in post #10

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However, there are one or two LU trains a day in the supplied timetable which are actually scheduled to reverse at Kilburn High Road, presumably either route learners or rusty rail moves.

In the default timetable I did come across T214-J (4DC power) which does just this. It departs StoneBridge LU depot at about 10 PM and terminates at Kilburn to become S214-K, which goes back down the line to return to StoneBridge depot. Presumably a late night train with few passengers. So it seems not all LU trains passing through Queens Park end up joining the Bakerloo line. There may be others with T headcodes in the default TT. Be warned.

A train of that kind in an LT timetable is probably there deliberately as a points tester. In fact it may well be an ecs move - the LT description won't say whether it's carrying passengers or not. Certainly when I had any contact with LT working (I was supervisor at Barking in 1981 - 3, so a lot might have changed) the points tester arrived Eastbound at East Ham in passenger service, tipped out and went back to Aldgate East ecs from where it reversed and ran (still ecs) to Bromley-by-Bow, another reversal and back to Whitechapel where it reversed again using the east end crossover, finally running in passenger service to Barking where it terminated and went in to the depot. (At least I think that was the sequence.) All of this took place starting around 19:30hr Monday - Friday, so by no means always late evening.

track circuit EH (the one between signals 2 and 7

Thanks Clive for explaining the innards.

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track circuit EH (the one between signals 2 and 7

Can the IDs of track circuits be displayed while playing SimSig, or is this only in developer mode?

WembleySub track circuits can be identified using the Incident Control Panel (F11)

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WembleySub track circuits can be identified using the Incident Control Panel (F11)

Thanks, well that's a start, but it seems to be a Catch-22. To occupy a TC that you select from the main display panel, you need to know its ID first, but there's no way to find its ID without clicking just about every TC on the F11 Track Circuit list. Unbelievable. Not like r-clicking a signal to get its ID. Have I missed something?

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WembleySub track circuits can be identified using the Incident Control Panel (F11)

Thanks, well that's a start, but it seems to be a Catch-22. To occupy a TC that you select from the main display panel, you need to know its ID first, but there's no way to find its ID without clicking just about every TC on the F11 Track Circuit list. Unbelievable. Not like r-clicking a signal to get its ID. Have I missed something?

yes! theres a button (with a symbol along the lines of a cursor, or pointing finger, but i dont have access to a sim atm so cannot confirm.) if you depress that button then left click on a TC, it will automatically highlight it in the list, so you do not need the ID. HTH.

Adding labels to track circuits is somewhere way down in the wish list, since it's not trivial (the way I did signal numbers in Euston isn't easy to do in general either; there needs to be a better way).

but here, signals do not carry their own ID