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| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 05/07/2011 at 10:44 #3348 | |
onlydjw
456 posts |
Introduction This timetable is an edit of the default timetable provided with the sim, but updated and corrected to the 2010 - early 2011 period. This version is for South Humberside version 2.218.76 – later versions of South Humberside will require a later version of the timetable. Many light engine moves have been added around the Immingham area to give the correct amount of locos on and off Immingham TMD. The coal plan has been much enhanced, and this second version also has more steel trains added. The coal plan has a number of options for some trains using the same path - please don't delete the rules surrounding these, or you may end up with far too many trains in the sim! The coal plan is largely based around the Immingham end, and as my knowledge of West Burton workings to the West is more limited, there may not be as many services towards Worksop. Rules have been added to some trains to stop them re-appearing having loaded/emptied before the corresponding inward working has arrived at its destination! The timetable combines various coal plans together with the base WTT for the period roughly from May 2010 to May 2011. I have NOT covered every single option for coal trains, and likewise there were a few changes to the base plan as well. There are rules to stop more than one train running per path, but not to stop different trains from different periods running within the same game (to add such rules would be far too complicated). Also, some trains would have specific day patterns – I have not included this in the timetable, as it would again be too complicated to do so. In practise, this means the timetable is very busy at times, and as such represents a busy day in the sim area. I realise it’s not 100% accurate, but I don’t believe it is unrealistic. Compatibility This timetable was written for version 2.218.76.0 of the South Humberside sim. This timetable is NOT compatible with the Worksop default timetable. I have no plans to release a Worksop timetable to link with this one, as this one has the coal biased towards Immingham. Acknowledgements My thanks to Chris Lord, Noel Young, Andy G, 47519, Lincoln Rail Gen, Officer Dibble and the many, many others who have assisted with the compilation Lincs Locos over the 18 months this was compiled for, all which assisted with the production of this timetable, and to those who helped with the testing of it. Regulation Notes Whilst testing the first version of this timetable, it became apparent that some players are unaware of the need to regulate the heavy freight trains to allow passenger trains to pass. This is very apparent now the timetable has been re-written with realistic acceleration rates and freight all running to freight line speeds (the default South Humberside timetable is incorrect in both of these areas). Those trains booked to run close to passenger trains are shown as booked onto Goods lines or into loops to allow passenger trains to pass, but in cases of late running, additional regulation is required to keep delays to a minimum. Here are a few notes on regulation which will help the smooth running of this timetable, taken from real life practises and recommendations, which make gameplay more realistic and will help keep delays to a minimum (and are relevant to other South Humberside timetables too): • Loaded freights from Immingham which are going to pass Brocklesby within 6-8 minutes of a following passenger train, should be routed onto the Goods Line, where the Barnetby operator can hold it to follow that passenger train. Note – if you send the freight fast line, and then route it onto the Slow at Barnetby, it takes much longer as the train is checked at each signal at Barnetby East until it can gain access to the slow line. Passenger trains are not permitted to use the Goods Line from Brocklesby Jn. Note – the Main and Goods routings from Barnetby are only a guide – trains should be sent on the appropriate route depending on the state of the network at the time. The only trains which should definitely run Goods Line are those booked to be held at Wrawby Jn. • Similarly, freight within 12 minutes of a passenger train at Barnetby heading towards Scunthorpe should be held at Barnetby (10 minutes for ore trains to Santon), having been routed Goods line at Brocklesby Jn. Note – in real life, there are often phone calls between Barnetby East, Wrawby Jn and Brocklesby Jn signalboxes on such matters to reach a joint decision – it is recommended you communicate with the other affected operators in multiplayer games! • Freight heading towards the Lincoln line at Wrawby Jn should have at least 25 minutes headway over a following passenger train, as it takes a lot longer to reach Lincoln, where the next loop is! • Freight heading towards Brigg at Wrawby Jn should have at least 7 minutes headway over a following passenger train. • In any of the instances above, and in the case of a freight train being booked to stand for a period of time at Wrawby Jn, the freight train being regulated should run goods line from Brocklesby Jn to minimise any impact on other services. • Freight trains heading towards Immingham (particularly coal trains) should be regulated where loops or slow lines exist to run to time if running early. In reality, the receiving terminal would not be able to accept the train early (it would probably have a train already loading). For empty coal trains heading for Humber International Terminal, there is a section of bi-directional line near Immingham West Jn that can be used (and is in reality). If a train arrives early at it’s destination, then it’s next working may then also run very early (the rules allow for a bit of recovery), which in some cases, may snowball and mean a train running when there is no path for it! Likewise with other early running trains – there are loops, such as Gunhouse and Barnetby platform 1 where freight can be looped. • Trains entering the sim in the Immingham area early should be held at their entry points where it causes no other conflicts to await their booked paths – this means no resultant delays will occur from these delaying other trains running to time. If still running early at Brocklesby, they should be routed goods line if there is a following passenger train, or freight train booked ahead of the early running one. Hopefully the freight train will have been regulated in the Immingham area at least in part. • Scunthorpe area – as at Barnetby, freight in the Scunthorpe area should be regulated if running close ahead of a passenger train. The official guidelines are 10 minutes for a down freight, and 8 minutes for an up freight ahead of a respective passenger train. Up trains can also be regulated in Gunhouse Loop. MAJOR TIP – don’t be afraid to route trains via the IN/OUT/Transfer lines at Scunthorpe, particularly those to/from Trent Yard/Anchor Sidings/Redbourne Sidings, or if there is a passenger train shunting in Scunthorpe station. Just because the timetable says it’s booked through the station, doesn’t mean you have to hold it and delay it to follow this! Other than that – use your common sense! Passenger trains run faster than freight trains. In reality, freight isn’t allowed to run early (without special authority from control). Unfortunately, this is difficult to simulate in Simsig, so needs manual regulation. Other Notes • Generally the booked lines are a guide. In times of delays and disruptions, some common sense is required. They are only a guide, and not mandatory. You will only lose points if a train booked to stop at a booked platform has its platform changed, or a passenger train is routed onto a Goods line. • Brigg Line – some trains only show limited timings across the Brigg Line. This is because I did not have access to the full schedules. Most freight is slackly timed to allow regulation for trains to pass one another on the single line sections. Also, the mandatory timing point at Kirton Lime Sidings is not available for use, and so some trains are shown as booked to be held at Kirton Lindsey station instead. • Immingham Area – this version has all the coal trains booked to the correct physical location in the sim, rather than the correct electronic location. I have put in brackets in the train description where this is the case, to try and reduce confusion. This will be corrected when the next version of the sim is released with the correct locations. See the wiki for more details on this. • Scunthorpe S38 – trains which reverse at Scunthorpe S38 are affected by the known bug for this signal. When routing from S343, do NOT set the route. Instead, wait for the train to call in and ask it to “Pass Signal at Danger”. DO NOT ABANDON TIMETABLE! Routing from S38 can be done as normal. Note – trains between Trent TC and the Immingham/Barnetby direction have been amended to run via the OUT line at Scunthorpe to cause less problems, although the timings do not reflect this. • Binliner run rounds – partially in connection with the above point at S38 signal. Trains 6E01, 6E06, 6E07, 6M05, 6M06 & 6M07 all run round at Scunthorpe Trent RCN. The engine moves have been adjusted so the engines do return at Entrance C/Anchor Sidings, and the light loco lengths have been adjusted to the correct 21m, and TT’s amended so the train fits inside the track circuit. Please note that when the loco re-attaches, the train will appear to be foul of the forward track circuit. Once the loco has attached, the train fits correct inside Scunthorpe Trent RCN, and you can route from S345. Also Available There is a Gainsborough Add-On timetable available, which adds a couple of RHTT workings, and some diversions from the ECML to run via Gainsborough (which ran at times between 2009 & 2011), and gives a few more trains for the Gainsborough panel – particularly at night. Contact Hope you enjoy the timetable - any comments/queries/errors to onlydjw@yahoo.co.uk, or in the South Humberside timetables area on the forum. Many thanks for downloading. Daniel Wilson July 2011 God bless, Daniel Wilson Log in to reply |
| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 05/07/2011 at 10:44 #17232 | |
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onlydjw
456 posts |
Introduction This timetable is an edit of the default timetable provided with the sim, but updated and corrected to the 2010 - early 2011 period. This version is for South Humberside version 2.218.76 – later versions of South Humberside will require a later version of the timetable. Many light engine moves have been added around the Immingham area to give the correct amount of locos on and off Immingham TMD. The coal plan has been much enhanced, and this second version also has more steel trains added. The coal plan has a number of options for some trains using the same path - please don't delete the rules surrounding these, or you may end up with far too many trains in the sim! The coal plan is largely based around the Immingham end, and as my knowledge of West Burton workings to the West is more limited, there may not be as many services towards Worksop. Rules have been added to some trains to stop them re-appearing having loaded/emptied before the corresponding inward working has arrived at its destination! The timetable combines various coal plans together with the base WTT for the period roughly from May 2010 to May 2011. I have NOT covered every single option for coal trains, and likewise there were a few changes to the base plan as well. There are rules to stop more than one train running per path, but not to stop different trains from different periods running within the same game (to add such rules would be far too complicated). Also, some trains would have specific day patterns – I have not included this in the timetable, as it would again be too complicated to do so. In practise, this means the timetable is very busy at times, and as such represents a busy day in the sim area. I realise it’s not 100% accurate, but I don’t believe it is unrealistic. Compatibility This timetable was written for version 2.218.76.0 of the South Humberside sim. This timetable is NOT compatible with the Worksop default timetable. I have no plans to release a Worksop timetable to link with this one, as this one has the coal biased towards Immingham. Acknowledgements My thanks to Chris Lord, Noel Young, Andy G, 47519, Lincoln Rail Gen, Officer Dibble and the many, many others who have assisted with the compilation Lincs Locos over the 18 months this was compiled for, all which assisted with the production of this timetable, and to those who helped with the testing of it. Regulation Notes Whilst testing the first version of this timetable, it became apparent that some players are unaware of the need to regulate the heavy freight trains to allow passenger trains to pass. This is very apparent now the timetable has been re-written with realistic acceleration rates and freight all running to freight line speeds (the default South Humberside timetable is incorrect in both of these areas). Those trains booked to run close to passenger trains are shown as booked onto Goods lines or into loops to allow passenger trains to pass, but in cases of late running, additional regulation is required to keep delays to a minimum. Here are a few notes on regulation which will help the smooth running of this timetable, taken from real life practises and recommendations, which make gameplay more realistic and will help keep delays to a minimum (and are relevant to other South Humberside timetables too): • Loaded freights from Immingham which are going to pass Brocklesby within 6-8 minutes of a following passenger train, should be routed onto the Goods Line, where the Barnetby operator can hold it to follow that passenger train. Note – if you send the freight fast line, and then route it onto the Slow at Barnetby, it takes much longer as the train is checked at each signal at Barnetby East until it can gain access to the slow line. Passenger trains are not permitted to use the Goods Line from Brocklesby Jn. Note – the Main and Goods routings from Barnetby are only a guide – trains should be sent on the appropriate route depending on the state of the network at the time. The only trains which should definitely run Goods Line are those booked to be held at Wrawby Jn. • Similarly, freight within 12 minutes of a passenger train at Barnetby heading towards Scunthorpe should be held at Barnetby (10 minutes for ore trains to Santon), having been routed Goods line at Brocklesby Jn. Note – in real life, there are often phone calls between Barnetby East, Wrawby Jn and Brocklesby Jn signalboxes on such matters to reach a joint decision – it is recommended you communicate with the other affected operators in multiplayer games! • Freight heading towards the Lincoln line at Wrawby Jn should have at least 25 minutes headway over a following passenger train, as it takes a lot longer to reach Lincoln, where the next loop is! • Freight heading towards Brigg at Wrawby Jn should have at least 7 minutes headway over a following passenger train. • In any of the instances above, and in the case of a freight train being booked to stand for a period of time at Wrawby Jn, the freight train being regulated should run goods line from Brocklesby Jn to minimise any impact on other services. • Freight trains heading towards Immingham (particularly coal trains) should be regulated where loops or slow lines exist to run to time if running early. In reality, the receiving terminal would not be able to accept the train early (it would probably have a train already loading). For empty coal trains heading for Humber International Terminal, there is a section of bi-directional line near Immingham West Jn that can be used (and is in reality). If a train arrives early at it’s destination, then it’s next working may then also run very early (the rules allow for a bit of recovery), which in some cases, may snowball and mean a train running when there is no path for it! Likewise with other early running trains – there are loops, such as Gunhouse and Barnetby platform 1 where freight can be looped. • Trains entering the sim in the Immingham area early should be held at their entry points where it causes no other conflicts to await their booked paths – this means no resultant delays will occur from these delaying other trains running to time. If still running early at Brocklesby, they should be routed goods line if there is a following passenger train, or freight train booked ahead of the early running one. Hopefully the freight train will have been regulated in the Immingham area at least in part. • Scunthorpe area – as at Barnetby, freight in the Scunthorpe area should be regulated if running close ahead of a passenger train. The official guidelines are 10 minutes for a down freight, and 8 minutes for an up freight ahead of a respective passenger train. Up trains can also be regulated in Gunhouse Loop. MAJOR TIP – don’t be afraid to route trains via the IN/OUT/Transfer lines at Scunthorpe, particularly those to/from Trent Yard/Anchor Sidings/Redbourne Sidings, or if there is a passenger train shunting in Scunthorpe station. Just because the timetable says it’s booked through the station, doesn’t mean you have to hold it and delay it to follow this! Other than that – use your common sense! Passenger trains run faster than freight trains. In reality, freight isn’t allowed to run early (without special authority from control). Unfortunately, this is difficult to simulate in Simsig, so needs manual regulation. Other Notes • Generally the booked lines are a guide. In times of delays and disruptions, some common sense is required. They are only a guide, and not mandatory. You will only lose points if a train booked to stop at a booked platform has its platform changed, or a passenger train is routed onto a Goods line. • Brigg Line – some trains only show limited timings across the Brigg Line. This is because I did not have access to the full schedules. Most freight is slackly timed to allow regulation for trains to pass one another on the single line sections. Also, the mandatory timing point at Kirton Lime Sidings is not available for use, and so some trains are shown as booked to be held at Kirton Lindsey station instead. • Immingham Area – this version has all the coal trains booked to the correct physical location in the sim, rather than the correct electronic location. I have put in brackets in the train description where this is the case, to try and reduce confusion. This will be corrected when the next version of the sim is released with the correct locations. See the wiki for more details on this. • Scunthorpe S38 – trains which reverse at Scunthorpe S38 are affected by the known bug for this signal. When routing from S343, do NOT set the route. Instead, wait for the train to call in and ask it to “Pass Signal at Danger”. DO NOT ABANDON TIMETABLE! Routing from S38 can be done as normal. Note – trains between Trent TC and the Immingham/Barnetby direction have been amended to run via the OUT line at Scunthorpe to cause less problems, although the timings do not reflect this. • Binliner run rounds – partially in connection with the above point at S38 signal. Trains 6E01, 6E06, 6E07, 6M05, 6M06 & 6M07 all run round at Scunthorpe Trent RCN. The engine moves have been adjusted so the engines do return at Entrance C/Anchor Sidings, and the light loco lengths have been adjusted to the correct 21m, and TT’s amended so the train fits inside the track circuit. Please note that when the loco re-attaches, the train will appear to be foul of the forward track circuit. Once the loco has attached, the train fits correct inside Scunthorpe Trent RCN, and you can route from S345. Also Available There is a Gainsborough Add-On timetable available, which adds a couple of RHTT workings, and some diversions from the ECML to run via Gainsborough (which ran at times between 2009 & 2011), and gives a few more trains for the Gainsborough panel – particularly at night. Contact Hope you enjoy the timetable - any comments/queries/errors to onlydjw@yahoo.co.uk, or in the South Humberside timetables area on the forum. Many thanks for downloading. Daniel Wilson July 2011 God bless, Daniel Wilson Log in to reply The following users said thank you: BarryM, SamTDS |
| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 05/07/2011 at 17:38 #17245 | |
slatteryc
254 posts |
Hello, is this released as yet, I cannot see it in the user-contrib section ? Thanks Chris. Log in to reply |
| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 05/07/2011 at 17:54 #17246 | |
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UKTrainMan
1803 posts |
slatteryc said:Hello, is this released as yet, I cannot see it in the user-contrib section ?Whilst it may have been released, the way the Downloads/Uploads section works is users submit their upload and then it has to be approved before it appears. As it doesn't currently show up, I suspect it may be awaiting approval before it does actually appear. Hope this helps. Any views and / or opinions expressed by myself are from me personally and do not represent those of any company I either work for or am a consultant for. Log in to reply |
| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 05/07/2011 at 18:26 #17247 | |
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onlydjw
456 posts |
As I posted in the test version thread, it will be submitted this evening. I posted this just after I'd edited/updated it and whilst I had time.
God bless, Daniel Wilson Log in to reply |
| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 06/07/2011 at 13:29 #17294 | |
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onlydjw
456 posts |
Now available in the downloads section.
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| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 12/10/2012 at 21:20 #36400 | |
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guidomcc
246 posts |
Great timetable, just wanted to ask: why are some trains from Gainsborough panel timetabled through Lincoln and not Brigg? (In before 'Because that's how they are in real life  )
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| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 12/10/2012 at 22:30 #36403 | |
Steamer
3985 posts |
" said:Great timetable, just wanted to ask: why are some trains from Gainsborough panel timetabled through Lincoln and not Brigg?Looking thorugh the 2011 planning rules (the latest version is available here, the route in question is LN736) the Wrawby Jn to Gainsborough Central section was shut on weekdays between 06:00 and 14:00, presumably so only the boxes only had to be manned for two 8-hour shifts per day. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: guidomcc |
| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 14/10/2012 at 14:55 #36484 | |
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onlydjw
456 posts |
No - there were (back then) regular possessions on any/all days 0600-1400, so the rules showed it as only available 1400-0600 on weekdays. Even since the line re-opened in the week, the boxes have been manned 0600 Monday to 2200 Saturday. Today it is still closed for a patrol of Kirton tunnel 0600-1400 Thursday (well - that's what the notices say), so any trains which run SX or similar are generally pathed via Lincoln on the morning shift. STP plans so tend to vary, and some STP will only be booked via Lincoln on a Thursday. In reality, things seem to be a bit more "flexible" (and always was), in that a train running an hour late, booked via Lincoln, may well be routed via Brigg if that route was available to gain some time back. Unfortunately, SimSig doesn't easily support this, so without a major TT edit (along with editing the rules as most coal trains in my TT have rules to correspond the loaded working with the empty one), it is difficult to replicate what may happen in reality. God bless, Daniel Wilson Last edited: 14/10/2012 at 14:56 by onlydjw Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| 2010-2011 Hybrid Timetable (Release Version 2.218.76) 28/10/2018 at 19:31 #112947 | |
SamTDS
153 posts |
hey, im on this TT and im finding the trains going into the power station dont have platform numbers in them, currently i am manually adding them in based from the default timetable so that i can see them while playing after having spent over an hour trying to find out which line to go in on.
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