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| euston named trains 10/08/2012 at 19:53 #34830 | |
jc92
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still writing the 1980/81 timetable, but im struggling to research name trains to add to the descriptions. i have the manchester pullman services covered as they are explicity stated in the WTT. can anyone help me identify which trains were running, and if possible, what their departure times or headcodes are so i can apply them to the timetable cheers "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 10/08/2012 at 20:06 #34833 | |
Peter Bennet
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Royal Scot Euston to Glasgow Central around 10ish Down similar UP and it was 5 hours give or take with a stop at Carlisle only if I recall correctly. The Clansman was the Euston-Inverness day train, think that was off EUS at around 9.20 and they crossed somewhere north of Carlisle. In later years this was off Birmingham rather than Euston Irish Mail was an overnight to Holyhead connecting with the ferry, not sure if the return was the same Stock. Overnight trains to Scotland were "The Royal Highlander" Inverness and Fort Bill; The Night Caledonian I think went via Dumfries; I think there was another but Can't recall its name might have been a night version of Royal Scot. In later years these were the Nightrider. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: jc92 |
| euston named trains 10/08/2012 at 20:14 #34834 | |
sloppyjag
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Off the top of my head (so don't have any firm details): The Royal Scot (to/from Glasgow Central) would have been a mid morning departure from Euston IIRC. Irish Mail (to/from Holyhead.) No idea of times or even if it was officially named. The Clansman (to/from Inverness). Not sure when this started running as "The Clansman" but it was certainly running in '82 when I first became interested in the railways. I used to get the morning postal from Larbert to Motherwell, spend the day spotting and return on The Clansman in the afternoon. I think departure from Euston was 09:35ish. Planotransitophobic! Last edited: 10/08/2012 at 20:15 by sloppyjag Reason: Peter was quicker on the keyboard! Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 10/08/2012 at 21:14 #34837 | |
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Peter Bennet
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As I keep saying to my wife it's important to keep the things...... Summer 1986 All-line timetable and 1H86 I can report the following (origin Euston followed by the return times and TDs) Not sure how to tabulate this but hopefully assist. [table] [tr] [td]1S47 0745 Inverness/ Glasgow C "The Clansman" : 1M35 1510 GLC/1C84 1100 INV[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1F11 0750 Liverpool "The Liverpool Pullman" : 1A11 0705[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1H05 0800 Manchester "The Manchester Pullman" : 1A10 0715[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1H06 0815 Manchester "The Festival Express" : 1A66 1600[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1S57 0945 Glasgow C "Royal Scot" : 1M05 0745 (From Ayr)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1H11 1115 Manchester "The Manchester Pullman" : 1A43 1200[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1F22 1130 Liverpool "The Liverpool Pullman" : 1A32 1125[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1H16 1600 Manchester "The Manchester Pullman" : 1A67 1640[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1F35 1605 Liverpool "The Liverpool Pullman" : 1A64 1605[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1P38 1645 Blackpool "The Lancashire Pullman" : 1A12 0630[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1D84 2200 Holyhead "The Irish Mail" : 1A04 0115[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1S25 2230 Inverness "The Royal Highlander" : 1M15 2030[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1S18 2300 Glasgow C "The Nightrider" : 1M11 2215 (Via GSW)[/td] [/tr] [tr] [td]1S26 2330 Glasgow C/Perth "The Night Limited" : 1M11 2310 GLC/1C87 2150 Perth[/td] [/tr] [/table] Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 10/08/2012 at 21:19 #34838 | |
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jc92
3690 posts |
your a star peter, ta very much. the liverpool pullman, that was degraded from being an actual pullman to Mk3 stock at some point? "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 11/08/2012 at 02:22 #34840 | |
flymo
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From the summer '84 TT Northbound. 07:56 Euston - Manchester "Manchester Pullman" SX 09:30 Euston - Inverness "The Clansman" 09:45 Euston - Glasgow C "Royal Scot" 16:50 Euston - Glasgow C "Glasgow Executive" 16:56 Euston - Manchester "Manchester Pullman" SX 18:00 Euston - Liverpool "Liverpool Executive" 21:25 SO 21:45 SX Euston - Holyhead "Irish Mail" 21:35 SO 21:55 SX Euston - Inverness "Royal Highlander" 23:00 SO 23:30 SX Euston - Glasgow C "Night Limited" 23:35 SX Euston - Glasgow C "Nightrider" There were also Southbound arrivals if you want Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 11/08/2012 at 07:57 #34841 | |
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Peter Bennet
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I have summer 87 and 75 too if that'll help. I also have most of the 1Hxx/2Hxx books for the '80s if other timetables come to light and you need TDs. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 11/08/2012 at 08:05 #34842 | |
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jc92
3690 posts |
" said:From the summer '84 TTplease! "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 11/08/2012 at 11:48 #34849 | |
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flymo
135 posts |
To the best of my knowledge looking at the '84 TT, the named southbound arrivals were: The Nightrider arr Euston 05:38 Mon-Sat; 05:52 Sun (ex Glasgow C 23:10 Sun-Fri; 22:10 Sat) The Night Limited arr Euston 05:55 Mon-Sat; 07:39 Sun (ex Glasgow C 23:20 daily) The Irish Mail arr Euston 06:12 Mon-Sat; 06:56 Sun (ex Holyhead 01:15 daily) The Royal Highlander arr Euston 07:37 Mon-Sat, 09:31 Sun (20:30 ex Inverness daily / 17:40 ex Fort William Mon-Sat) The Liverpool Executive arr Euston 09:40 Mon-Sat (07:00 ex Liverpool) The Manchester Pullman arr Euston 10:04 Mon-Fri (07:35 ex Manchester) The Royal Scot arr Euston 14:13 Mon-Sat (07:55 ex Ayr, Mon-Fri, 07:45 Sat) The Manchester Pullman arr Euston 19:14 Mon-Fri (16:42 ex Manchester) The Clansman arr Euston 21:10 Mon-Sat (10:20 ex Inverness) The Glasgow Executive arr Euston 22:25 Mon-Sat (17:10 ex Glasgow C) Also further to my earlier post The Royal Highlander also went to Fort William arr 09:50 Sun - Fri as well as Inverness (Splitting at Mossend I think) Sorry I have no times from 80/81 at the moment however.. 
Last edited: 11/08/2012 at 11:52 by flymo Reason: fat finger syndrome Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 11/08/2012 at 11:56 #34850 | |
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Peter Bennet
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How the sleepers were bundled does seem to vary quite a bit over the years. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 11/08/2012 at 12:00 #34851 | |
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flymo
135 posts |
Also to add, The Night Limited was sleeping cars only during the summer, the Royal Highlander was 'sleepers only' to/from Inverness, with sleepers and seats to/from Ft William. Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 11/08/2012 at 18:45 #34862 | |
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benstafford
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I think I have an early 80 s GBTT at home. I'll check when i can
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| euston named trains 13/08/2012 at 14:55 #34892 | |
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Forest Pines
525 posts |
" said:1H06 0815 Manchester "The Festival Express" : 1A66 1600Presumably this was a Summer 1986 only name, for the Stoke Garden Festival. I wonder if there was a matching Liverpool one in 1984. Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 13/08/2012 at 16:35 #34894 | |
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Peter Bennet
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" said:" said:Ah, that would be the one - I did wonder as I was only aware of Glasgow and Liverpool. The timetable period was 12 May to 28 September and it was not a limited period train is the best I can offer on that.1H06 0815 Manchester "The Festival Express" : 1A66 1600Presumably this was a Summer 1986 only name, for the Stoke Garden Festival. I wonder if there was a matching Liverpool one in 1984. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| euston named trains 14/08/2012 at 13:03 #34918 | |
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jc92
3690 posts |
ive bought a book detailing all uk named trains past and present, and it lists the festival express as being the 1986 one, as it wasnt limited period, but ran for the full timetable period. ive now entered all the suitable names into the timetable thanks for the help "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |