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| Classes 01/09/2012 at 13:39 #35334 | |
irjoey
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Hi there, This may have been discussed before or I may be being plain stupid but whenever I try to create a timetable, I use OpenTrainTimes.com mainly to help me. Sadly, OTT rarely tells you the class of train (ie. Class 158) operating the service and so it is left to the imagination but I've seen on some Timetables that creators know of the classes for each service. Are they just guessing or is there a way of finding this out? Also, is there a way of finding Timetable info for an area (multiple stations/locations) in a simplified way rather than having to search for trains at one specific location? Any great resources that I'm missing out on to help me with the above? Thanks guys, Joe Log in to reply |
| Classes 01/09/2012 at 14:54 #35336 | |
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john havenhand
58 posts |
the NR WTT which is availble off thier website shows what DMU/EMU booked services are see attachment below link Last edited: 01/09/2012 at 15:05 by mfcooper Reason: Fixing the broken link Log in to reply |
| Classes 01/09/2012 at 15:45 #35337 | |
jc92
3690 posts |
" said:the NR WTT which is availble off thier website shows what DMU/EMU booked services are see attachment belowit actually shows the slowest/longest (ie most restrictive) class that would work it. for instance all leeds-harrogate-york services are booked as 142 as they are timed for a pacer, but its actually quite often a 150 or 155, or a pair, etc. same with the hope valley "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Classes 01/09/2012 at 15:54 #35338 | |
Steamer
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" said:the NR WTT which is availble off thier website shows what DMU/EMU booked services are see attachment belowDid you mean to link to table CE02? The WTT home page is here. The WTT only shows the timing load, i.e. the train the timing was based on. For example, on that table, 2N01 06:58 Ormskirk- Preston is timed for a 150, whereas in reality it is almost always worked by a 142 or 153. I'd suggest posting the workings that you want to know. Also, some services see varied traction- for example Northern services between Manchester and Wigan change daily between a 142, 150 and 156, so there is no 'right' answer. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Classes 01/09/2012 at 18:48 #35346 | |
58050
2659 posts |
You could try this website:- 1H07 - Loco & Unit Diagrams 10 December 2006 - 19 May 2007 Timetable. The link for which is here:- http://www.prar.fsnet.co.uk/diagrams.html This list loco & unit diagrams for certain loco & units for certain years by train operating companies. The WTTs give some information which as previously stated is rather general as opposed to actual. Having the relevant diagrams fir the 'said' period you are after is really the only sure fire way of being anywhere near accurate & these change periodically. If you know someone who works or worked in the Current Operations Control or a driver based at a depot that worked on the area you are trying to write a timetable for is really the only other way of having the correct information you need. Log in to reply |
| Classes 02/09/2012 at 12:19 #35358 | |
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sloppyjag
480 posts |
Timing load allocations in working timetables can be a little misleading at first sight. Take Scotland for instance (GA/GC) where some local services have timing loads described as "150" but Scotland hasn't had an allocation of 150's for many years. If you look at the notes then this is explained that "150" means "Class 150, 153 or 156 DMU (75 mph)". There's never been any 153's allocated to Scotland so that'll be a 156 then. However, due to the way diagrams work in Scotland, units often jumping from route to route throughout the diagram, you are just as likely to find a 158 or 170 working the service.
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