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| ARS Operation 11/09/2012 at 18:02 #35574 | |
postal
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The following statement has appeared on another forum in regard to local trains being held at Darlington as the signaller at Tyneside IECC was unwilling to interfere with the ARS routing as the train would need to be manually controlled until it left IECC control at DONcaster: "The IECC signaller can (or I should say could - not sure if the arrangements have changed) override the ARS and take back a train from the system, but then it has/had to be manually worked until it leaves the IECC signalling system or to destination." Can anyone confirm whether that is still the case or can the train's ARS status be reset like we do in SimSig? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| ARS Operation 11/09/2012 at 20:07 #35578 | |
GeoffM
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If a train is on the same line of route, even on a different track to that scheduled, ARS can be re-instated. However, it'll try to get it back onto its planned path at the earliest opportunity which might not be desirable if single-track SIMBIDS was in operation with the up train running wrong line. Mind you, I doubt they'd have the subareas switched on in that situation anyway. Going via a completely different route, probably even as simple as going over a different bridge over the Tyne in Newcastle (KEB/HLB) because it involves different locations, would render ARS useless until the train was back on the correct line of route. Generally though, the comment "but then it has/had to be manually worked" is rubbish. I'd be interested to see the comment in full context though, just in case there is some mitigating situation that might have rendered the comment not quite so rubbish. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| ARS Operation 11/09/2012 at 21:37 #35580 | |
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postal
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Geoff Thanks. I've e-mailed you the relevant full text so that you can make any further comment if necessary. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| ARS Operation 11/09/2012 at 21:56 #35581 | |
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GeoffM
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" said:GeoffRead and replied. Nothing further to add here! SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| ARS Operation 12/09/2012 at 05:23 #35582 | |
pilotman
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I was under the impression that regulating the traffic was part of the signaller's job during out of course situations.
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| ARS Operation 12/09/2012 at 07:03 #35583 | |
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Colourlight
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Hello Pilotman, that is largely true. Depending on the location and the level of dsruption other people may take part in the Regulating process. For Instance in a signalling Center the Duty Supervisor may make the decision. Control may also play a part in it. TOC,s and FOC,s may also make a contribution which could affect the Signaller,s regulating decision.
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| ARS Operation 12/09/2012 at 11:43 #35586 | |
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pilotman
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Thanks Colourlight. I thought that would be the case with modern comms. But after discussion between all parties presumably doing nothing is not an option. BTW I am comfortable with communicating with "Colourlight" now that we have our first examples on the Bluebell railway!!! 
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| ARS Operation 13/09/2012 at 22:17 #35613 | |
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GeoffM
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" said:I was under the impression that regulating the traffic was part of the signaller's job during out of course situations.It's his/her job in normal situations too! SUbject to being directed from above or requests from TOCs etc of course. But the notion that "if I take it ARS I'll have to signal it manually" is just laziness - as is delaying other traffic just because he doesn't want to knock it out of ARS. There have been vague mutterings within BR/RT/NR that a workstation area should be controllable by a signaller without ARS, in the case of a failure of said system. As a result, some of the more modern workstations only cover a small area and adding ARS will just make the signaller's workload even less. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: pilotman |