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convdata 02/10/2012 at 20:04 #35977
hornby0729
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33 posts 		Hi I am having some problems with convdata. I have written a text document with some generic train schedules and I have then listed some trains that will use the schedules for KingsX.

Here are some extracts from the text document
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IC225
DES='Class 91, 9 mk 4 coaches and a mk 4 DVT.';
MXS=140; LEN=245; FRT=F; BRK=Med; PWR=AC; SCL=HST;.

HST9
DES='Two class 43s with 9 coaches.';
MXS=125; LEN=242; FRT=F; BRK=Med; PWR=D; SCL=HST;.

UpFast DTT=T;
ENP=EUF;
(HITCHIN DEP=%EN+6; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(STEVNGE DEP=%D@HITCHIN+2; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLMRGRN DEP=%D@STEVNGE+2H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLWYNGC DEP=%D@WLMRGRN+2; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(POTRSBR DEP=%D@WLWYNGC+5; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(ALEXNDP DEP=%D@POTRSBR+4H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(FNPK DEP=%D@ALEXNDP+3H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(KNGX ARR=%D@FNPK+4; DEP=%D@FNPK+4; PLT=$P$; ACT=N:$N$).

1A01 CTT=UpFast; TYP=IC225; ENT=06:06; $P$=2; $N$=1s08; DES="05:40 Peterborough - London Kings Cross".
1A02 CTT=UpFast; TYP=HST9; UTT=1; ENT=06:36; $P$=5; $N$=1D08; DES="04:40 Leeds - London Kings Cross".
1A03 CTT=UpFast; TYP=IC225; ENT=07:06; $P$=3; $N$=1d09; DES="05:10 Leeds - London Kings Cross".

DownFast DTT=T;
(KNGX DEP=%EN; PLT=$P$; )
(FNPK DEP=%D@KNGX+4H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(ALEXNDP DEP=%D@FNPK+2; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(POTRSBR DEP=%D@ALEXNDP+4H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLWYNGC DEP=%D@POTRSBR+4; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLMRGRN DEP=%D@WLWYNGC+1H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(STEVNGE DEP=%D@WLMRGRN+2; PAS=T; PLT=3; LIN=FL)
(HITCHIN DEP=%D@STEVNGE+2; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(BIGLSWD DEP=%D@HITCHIN+2; PAS=T).

1S11 CTT=DownFast; TYP=IC225; UTT=1; EET=09:00; $P$=1; DES="09:00 London Kings Cross - Edinburgh".
1S13 CTT=DownFast; TYP=HST9; UTT=1; EET=10:00; $P$=1; DES="10:00 London Kings Cross - Aberdeen".
1S15 CTT=DownFast; TYP=IC225; UTT=1; EET=11:00; $P$=3; DES="11:00 London Kings Cross - Edinburgh".
This is converted to a wtt fine and when I run the timetable 1A01 runs fine however when it arrives at Kings Cross does not become 1s08 correctly and the second train (1A02) that should enter at Biggleswade enters but with 'no engine'.

Here is an image of the errors for both trains.


Does anyone know what I am doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.
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convdata 02/10/2012 at 20:28 #35978
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75 posts 		It might be case sensitive, i.e. you need to use 1S08 rather than 1s08?
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convdata 02/10/2012 at 20:45 #35979
Noisynoel
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989 posts 		PWR=AC should read PWR=AC-OHLE.
The issue with the 2nd train having no enigne may be something to do with the initial power not being set up. Unfortuantly I don't do the TT's using that method so can't really see where it (PWS=xxx) should go
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convdata 02/10/2012 at 21:33 #35980
clive
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2789 posts 		PWR=AC is fine.

You don't show the data for 1s08 (and I wouldn't use lowercase) so I can't see what's wrong.

One thing you can do is use convdata to convert the generated timetable back to the text format. You can then look at what it actually produced for the train, as opposed to what you expected it to generate, and see if there are any problems there.

Are you using the current version of convdata?
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convdata 03/10/2012 at 18:41 #35997
hornby0729
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33 posts 		" said:
PWR=AC is fine.

You don't show the data for 1s08 (and I wouldn't use lowercase) so I can't see what's wrong.

One thing you can do is use convdata to convert the generated timetable back to the text format. You can then look at what it actually produced for the train, as opposed to what you expected it to generate, and see if there are any problems there.

Are you using the current version of convdata?
Thanks for your responses, the casing has now been fixed so it is a capital S. I am using the latest version from http://www.davros.org/rail/SimSig/. Sorry I thought I had given the details for 1S08, they are here:
Quote:
1S08 CTT=DownFast; TYP=IC225; EET=07:30; $P$=2; DES="07:30 London Kings Cross - Edinburgh".
Since my post last night I have tried creating it again and now 1A01 is having the 'no engine' error too.
I ran the converter backwards and this is what I am given for 1A01 and 1A02.
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1A01
DES='05:40 Peterborough - London Kings Cross';
ENP=EUF; ENT=06:06;
TYP=IC225;
MXS=0; LEN=0; BRK=VSlow; PWR=;
# 8 timing points
(HITCHIN DEP=06:12; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(STEVNGE DEP=06:14; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLMRGRN DEP=06:16H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLWYNGC DEP=06:18H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(POTRSBR DEP=06:23H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(ALEXNDP DEP=06:28; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(FNPK DEP=06:31H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(KNGX ARR=06:35H; DEP=06:35H; PLT=2; ACT=N:1S08)
.
1A02
DES='04:40 Leeds - London Kings Cross';
ENP=EUF; ENT=06:36;
TYP=HST9;
MXS=0; LEN=0; BRK=VSlow; PWR=;
# 8 timing points
(HITCHIN DEP=06:42; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(STEVNGE DEP=06:44; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLMRGRN DEP=06:46H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(WLWYNGC DEP=06:48H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(POTRSBR DEP=06:53H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(ALEXNDP DEP=06:58; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(FNPK DEP=07:01H; PAS=T; LIN=FL)
(KNGX ARR=07:05H; DEP=07:05H; PLT=5; ACT=N:1D08)
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convdata 03/10/2012 at 21:22 #36006
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509 posts 		I had the same problem when I initially started using generics. I found that you must include UTT=1 in either the generic train description (where you’ve set the length, power, etc.) or in each of the individual descriptions.
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convdata 04/10/2012 at 05:39 #36007
Peter Bennet
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5402 posts 		Somewhere I have all the files I used for KX1977 where I used this coding method. I'll see if I can dig it out and send it to you.

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convdata 04/10/2012 at 06:25 #36008
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5402 posts 		Here maybe


[attachment=454]313diagram1.txt[/attachment]

[attachment=455]313DIAGRAMS0.3.xls[/attachment]

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convdata 04/10/2012 at 17:24 #36012
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33 posts 		" said:
I had the same problem when I initially started using generics. I found that you must include UTT=1 in either the generic train description (where you’ve set the length, power, etc.) or in each of the individual descriptions.
Thank you this worked brilliantly!

Thank you too Peter these are really good and useful documents.
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convdata 04/10/2012 at 19:28 #36015
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5402 posts 		" said:

Thank you too Peter these are really good and useful documents.
You're welcome, though I attached without checking they were the correct ones. The spreadsheet is not what I though it was. What I though it was was the sheet where I crated all individual workings data and then concatenated it into the line of data you see for each train under the respective timetable.

That is 2H05-1 CTT=DH; EET=05:40;$t$=05:40;$N$=2J08-1;$M$=9;$H$=3.
comes from a spreadsheet of columns of alternated fixed text and variable data.

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