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| Eden Vale Goods Loop 21/11/2012 at 14:19 #37911 | |
John
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The track diagram says that it is 564M, yet 4M48 booked into the loop in the 2009 tt does not fit despite being 550M.
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| Eden Vale Goods Loop 21/11/2012 at 14:25 #37913 | |
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AndyG
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Probably due to the train only drawing up to 18m (60' short of signal (SimSig default), a stopping position of far end exact would fix that.Abandon TT, shunt forward and reinstate TT should get it into the loop properly. I can only help one person a day. Today's not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. Log in to reply |
| Eden Vale Goods Loop 21/11/2012 at 14:25 #37914 | |
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John
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Ta very much, Andy.
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| Eden Vale Goods Loop 26/11/2012 at 18:58 #38161 | |
Tempest Malice
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Just want to check, did this fix work for you? as I couldn't get the train to fit in the loop even with abandoning timetable and repeated attempts at shunting forward and double reversing to convince it to move up. and when I finnaly gave up and moved it on to tebay to hide it there instead; the tc's for the points at both ends of eden vale loop indicated occupied which seems to me like the loop is too short.
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| Eden Vale Goods Loop 26/11/2012 at 19:44 #38163 | |
postal
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Table A of the Sectional Appendix quotes the distance from turnout to turnout as 57 chains (3762 feet) while the length of the loop is given as 878 metres (2880 feet). It looks as if there is some inconsistency between the data available to Tom and the data published in the Sectional Appendix.
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| Eden Vale Goods Loop 26/11/2012 at 20:07 #38165 | |
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TomOF
452 posts |
Length added for next release.
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| Eden Vale Goods Loop 29/11/2012 at 14:27 #38288 | |
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clive
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" said:Table A of the Sectional Appendix quotes the distance from turnout to turnout as 57 chains (3762 feet) while the length of the loop is given as 878 metres (2880 feet). It looks as if there is some inconsistency between the data available to Tom and the data published in the Sectional Appendix.Are you sure we're comparing apples and apples here? Firstly, looking at the SA there's a speed limit change 5c from the entrance points. I suspect that's the fouling point, so you need to start counting from there. And looking at Google Maps there's about 4c from the signal to the exit points. So we've already reduced 57c to 48c. Secondly, I have a feeling that "length of loop" is how long a train can stand there, and I forget whether or not it includes the loco. If it doesn't, that's another couple of chains as well, so 46c. And 878 metres is roughly 44 chains, which is pretty close. Log in to reply |
| Eden Vale Goods Loop 29/11/2012 at 16:33 #38290 | |
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postal
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" said:" said:That wasn't my intention. I was trying to point out that the length of 878metres quoted in the SA was consistent within the overall length from turnout to turnout and inconsistent with the 564m which was shown on the sim diagram. This is quite possibly due to differences between the data sources used by Tom and the other data sources available. Unless someone goes out on the ground with a chain or a measuring laser it will be difficult to know what the definitive answer should be.Table A of the Sectional Appendix quotes the distance from turnout to turnout as 57 chains (3762 feet) while the length of the loop is given as 878 metres (2880 feet). It looks as if there is some inconsistency between the data available to Tom and the data published in the Sectional Appendix.Are you sure we're comparing apples and apples here? “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Eden Vale Goods Loop 29/11/2012 at 16:39 #38292 | |
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clive
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" said:Unless someone goes out on the ground with a chain or a measuring laser it will be difficult to know what the definitive answer should be.[My previous message on this seems to have disappeared, so this is from memory.] I looked on Google Earth, which has a measuring tool. I make it: 140m from entry points to fouling point 907m from fouling point to signal 60m from signal to exit points The 907m is close to the 878m in the SA, and the total (1107m) is 55 chains, which is pretty close to the distance in the SA as well. Discrepencies are probably due to Google. Log in to reply |
| Eden Vale Goods Loop 29/11/2012 at 17:17 #38293 | |
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postal
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I think we are in violent agreement, really.
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| Eden Vale Goods Loop 29/11/2012 at 17:46 #38297 | |
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TomOF
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If I can try to put this issue to bed, The original poster rightly raised the issue that a train of expected length did not fit in. Examining the data I had inadvertantly put in a value that did not match even my own figures. Not sure where that came from but it was a bit too short. I don't have the data in front of me right now so I can't tell you what the new length is, suffice to say there should be no problems recessing freights in the next version. Log in to reply |