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| No "Train stood at red signal" call for entry point TC failures 23/12/2012 at 10:19 #39556 | |
gricehead
44 posts |
This might be a case of "working as designed"... When a TC failure occurs before the first controlled signal at an entry point (eg between N183 and N187 from Severn Tunnel Junction) the signaller doesn't get a call from the driver to say the train is stood at a red signal. I'm guessing in real life that call would go through to the Newport signaller. So that's correct in the sim? But on the sim a call from N187 would come through to the (Bristol) "sim signaller", so not consistent. Anyway, in the above described condition, there's no genuine way to get a train past the TC failure (without direct intervention through the timetable.) In real life, I'm guessing the signallers would collaborate to resolve the situation? Log in to reply |
| No "Train stood at red signal" call for entry point TC failures 23/12/2012 at 12:04 #39557 | |
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guidomcc
246 posts |
There was a similar issue raised here for Brighton sim with failures outside of the sim area http://www.SimSig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&view=topic&catid=54&id=32772&Itemid=0&limitstart=10#32861 I do not know whether the issue was ever resolved or not Log in to reply |
| No "Train stood at red signal" call for entry point TC failures 23/12/2012 at 14:08 #39559 | |
Peter Bennet
5402 posts |
If it's a Newport signal the train is stopped at then the call will go to Newport not Bristol. I'm a little confused by what you say here about inconsistency, "I'm guessing in real life that call would go through to the Newport signaller. So that's correct in the sim? But on the sim a call from N187 would come through to the (Bristol) "sim signaller", so not consistent." Can you expand on that please. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| No "Train stood at red signal" call for entry point TC failures 23/12/2012 at 15:26 #39560 | |
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gricehead
44 posts |
" said:If it's a Newport signal the train is stopped at then the call will go to Newport not Bristol.On the Sim: You don't get calls from N183 You do get calls from N187 I assumed that as both these signals have N plates, then calls from both should go to Newport signalman in real life. This may be a bad assumption on my part. Log in to reply |
| No "Train stood at red signal" call for entry point TC failures 23/12/2012 at 16:24 #39564 | |
Steamer
3985 posts |
" said:I think the reason is that N187 is controlled, and has effectively been 'adopted' by Bristol PSB for the purposes of the simulation, whereas N183 is an external signal. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| No "Train stood at red signal" call for entry point TC failures 23/12/2012 at 17:50 #39570 | |
GeoffM
6377 posts |
" said:" said:Correct! In general we try to avoid failures outside the area (or just inside and not under our control) so we don't get this kind of situation. Omissions happen.I think the reason is that N187 is controlled, and has effectively been 'adopted' by Bristol PSB for the purposes of the simulation, whereas N183 is an external signal. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |