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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 06/02/2013 at 17:34 #41257
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/proginfo/2013/07/the-railway-keeping-britain-on-track.html

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 06/02/2013 at 20:23 #41261
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Tuesday 12th February 9pm ~ Kings Cross
Tuesday 19th February 9pm ~ Leeds
Tuesday 26th February 9pm ~ Reading
Tuesday 5th March 9pm ~ WCML
Tuesday 12th March 9pm ~ Communities
Tuesday 19th March 9pm ~ Scotland

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 06/02/2013 at 20:41 #41262
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Can't wait, looks interesting.
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 13/02/2013 at 12:05 #41489
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One highlight for me was the "workshop" and the newspeak management consultant asking KX station staff how they can meet passenger expectation and the "old-timer" saying - run the trains on time and that's all and that's out of my hands! The rest of the attendees then trying to keep straight faces. The other highlight was the ticket office chap trying to have his lunch and being bothered by the reporter.

Other than that it was quite tedious.

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 13/02/2013 at 12:17 #41491
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" said:
One highlight for me was the "workshop" and the newspeak management consultant asking KX station staff how they can meet passenger expectation and the "old-timer" saying - run the trains on time and that's all and that's out of my hands! The rest of the attendees then trying to keep straight faces. The other highlight was the ticket office chap trying to have his lunch and being bothered by the reporter.

Other than that it was quite tedious.

Peter
Agree although do miss seeing Laxman around KX, always such a help

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 14/02/2013 at 06:40 #41516
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I sat through the whole programme waiting for a look inside the signalling centre. Maybe the BBC couldn't find it?
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 14/02/2013 at 09:55 #41518
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Watched this on iplayer last night. Quite a few characters featured, but would have liked a more 'technical' feel, ie, a piece on the Powerbox as mentioned by Pilotman, along with other 'behind the scenes' items. It seemed to sink into the usual coverage of passengers berating the staff. Overall, I'm afraid it came over as quite bland.
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 14/02/2013 at 10:11 #41520
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Watched this on iplayer last night. Quite a few characters featured, but would have liked a more 'technical' feel, ie, a piece on the Powerbox as mentioned by Pilotman, along with other 'behind the scenes' items. It seemed to sink into the usual coverage of passengers berating the staff. Overall, I'm afraid it came over as quite bland.

Seconded! But if you want a technical feel you have to have technical people making the programme.
BTW like the use of the term "Powerbox", which came into use when the first Westinghouse frame was installed in the old signalbox.

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 14/02/2013 at 13:51 #41522
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Seconded! But if you want a technical feel you have to have technical people making the programme.
Like an interviewer that knows diesels don't run on petrol!

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 14/02/2013 at 15:20 #41523
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The comment of the train running out of fuel was , as said , priceless! I found that amusing. And I was also surprised to see the brief run in the cab of a Class 91. Didn't think that would have been allowed but seemingly it was.
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 14/02/2013 at 16:57 #41524
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The BBC ran a week long series of 'behind the scenes' of the railways back in 1988 called 'Railwatch' & at the time I recorded it all on video(VHS). That was far better as it went round Neville Hill depot, Doncaster PSB & other locations. I agree it would have been better showing you inside King's Cross PSB & possibly the Regional Control at York so people can see why certain incidents take a long time to get things on the move again. I wonder if we will see 'Officer Dibble' on the episode covering Reading?
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 14/02/2013 at 17:34 #41525
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The BBC ran a week long series of 'behind the scenes' of the railways back in 1988 called 'Railwatch' & at the time I recorded it all on video(VHS). That was far better as it went round Neville Hill depot, Doncaster PSB & other locations. I agree it would have been better showing you inside King's Cross PSB & possibly the Regional Control at York so people can see why certain incidents take a long time to get things on the move again. I wonder if we will see 'Officer Dibble' on the episode covering Reading?
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 15/02/2013 at 02:44 #41541
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The programme though was about the station, and the people that work there - control/panel don't really fall into that remit. BBC have to make a programme that's relatable to the public, who want human interest stories. To the lay outsider while informative, a visit to the 'box would be quite boring, especially to the casual channel hopping viewer. But a sad story about a cleaner that has never travelled on the train or a retiring dispatcher who worked at the station for 30+ years will capture almost anyones heart.

I think it was very well made, yes pity we didn't get to visit the signalbox, but I look forward to next weeks installment.

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 16/02/2013 at 19:12 #41584
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Having been part of the Underground series last year, which may even be filmed by the same company, certain aspects such as the brief glimpse inside the 91s cab could be a part of future episodes. They tend to pull small chunks and use them in several episodes, so who knows, there may be more of that cab to come (nice to see it was being sent onto the down slow at New Barnet though, but I doubt it was to allow a FCC service to pass )

Whether the same company is involved or not, it is I suppose heartening to have 2 consecutive spring seasons with railway-related programming on.

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 07/03/2013 at 18:16 #42127
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Just been watching ep.4 WCML on iPlayer, and they've got a lot more about mechanical AB boxes, with a sequence inside Stockport No.2, which seems a busy old place to be! Also had a bit with one of the guys in Blea Moor; I can imagine that starts to get a bit creepy at 3am in the middle of winter... Pity the S&C seems to be reduced to a freight diversion and excursion route these days.
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 07/03/2013 at 18:33 #42129
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It looks busy but most of the time they're pulling the same levers. I thought the 'call-attention' bell-signal was quaint. As for Blea Moor, I can't find it, so here's Kirkby Stephen:







....and 9 freight-trains between 2200 and 0600

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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 07/03/2013 at 18:58 #42130
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The programme claimed 4tph over Ribblehead Viaduct...
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 07/03/2013 at 20:42 #42135
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Just watched the episode on WCML. Nice to see a glimpse of New Street especially the Powerbox. Ahhh, the memories.
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 08/03/2013 at 00:45 #42145
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btw did anyone notice paul in episode 3. he was there briefly
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BBC2: The railway keeping britain on track : 12 Feb for 6 weeks 08/03/2013 at 10:27 #42149
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It looks busy but most of the time they're pulling the same levers. I thought the 'call-attention' bell-signal was quaint. As for Blea Moor, I can't find it, so here's Kirkby Stephen:

....and 9 freight-trains between 2200 and 0600

I don't know about quaint... if the DI catches you working without call attention you're in for a b******ing (or worse). Which is why there's also (unofficial) local codes for 'DI in section' and various other ways of letting your mate know you have 'company' arriving.

The old DIs knew all about that of course. And occasionally there'd be a young smart alec who'd decide he was going to make his mark. The story goes that one such (a traffic assistant rather than a proper DI) was spotted getting off the train late one night. The bobby promptly put the 'dots' on all round and, anticipating his arrival, put the kettle on. (Well you do, don't you, when you've got company... those old DIs must've had hollow legs, the amount of tea they drank!) Then, of course, he emptied the dregs out of the pot... in the traditional way, out of a window in the corner of the box which was always left open for that purpose. Which, of course, was where the TA was listening

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