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| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 09:03 #42466 | |
postal
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The first posting of this BBC report suggested that the car had attempted to zig-zag round the half barriers although that suggestion has now been replaced by the statement that the barriers were down and the car was on the track. if the original report was right, will people ever learn?
“In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Last edited: 21/03/2013 at 12:59 by postal Reason: More information available Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 11:26 #42470 | |
birchy74
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The simple answer to this is NO.
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| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 11:46 #42471 | |
northroad
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Think you answered your own question there John....but we should not jump to conclusions until the full facts are known. Geoff Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 13:29 #42474 | |
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Sacro
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If only they could come up with some kind of reliable deterrent... say 350 tonnes travelling at around 125mph...
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| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 13:32 #42475 | |
andyb0607
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" said:If only they could come up with some kind of reliable deterrent... say 350 tonnes travelling at around 125mph...That deterrent is already there! Doesn't seem to make much difference though! Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 16:38 #42478 | |
Temple Meads
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Nasty incident, at least the train stayed on the track as it could've been another Ufton Nervert very easily, from pictures I've seen of the power car, the damage is quite minimal, especially compared to the car!
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| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 16:47 #42479 | |
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Class 92
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I watched a news report and it said that the car driver behind the car that was hit siad that the driver went round the barriers.
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| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 17:44 #42482 | |
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Javelin395
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Now I'm not one for the nanny state but I've never liked the half barrier type of crossing. If someone is stupid / reckless enough to try and dodge them then I'm afraid they deserve everything that is coming their way. However, the problem is they are endangering many others in the process. For this reason I am of the opinion that all crossings should be of the full barrier type. Yes, I know there is then the risk of someone becoming stranded on the crossing when the gates close. But how does this risk compare with that of people dodging half-barriers and a high speed train subsequently being derailed? In any case, the risk of stranding on a crossing could be mitigated if all crossings were CCTV monitored. But of course that won't happen as it would be too costly !! Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 18:36 #42483 | |
GeoffM
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" said:Now I'm not one for the nanny state but I've never liked the half barrier type of crossing. If someone is stupid / reckless enough to try and dodge them then I'm afraid they deserve everything that is coming their way. However, the problem is they are endangering many others in the process. For this reason I am of the opinion that all crossings should be of the full barrier type.Network Rail are investigating an object detection system that would allow full barrier crossings to work automatically, without input from the signaller. Called something like MCB-OD and there are a couple of methods, radar and image recognition IIRC. SimSig Boss Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Javelin395 |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 19:14 #42485 | |
moonraker
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You would really think that people would have learned the lesson by now. Obviously not 
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| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 19:58 #42488 | |
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DanC
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People will be quick to blame Network rail for not making crossing's safe enough...As with everything in this country (it would seem) why don't people take some responsibility themselves! It's almost a case of needing to make EVERYTHING idiot proof...I'm not saying they deserve what happens to them - no-one deserves this sort of tradegy - but you have to say that by chosing to ignore all the systems and warning put in place (and their common sense for that matter) then they are running the risk of injury...If it turns out the crossing malfunctioned or something wrong was done then fair enough...blame can be placed at NR's door... Rant over :angry: Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Gwasanaethau |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 20:19 #42489 | |
lazzer
634 posts |
A simple solution to the problem created by a car stuck between full barriers is to MOVE THE BARRIERS back down the road, creating a space between the barrier and the track. Yes, I know that costs money, but so does clearing up the body parts every time someone goes round a half barrier. Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 20:59 #42495 | |
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Signalhunter
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" said:" said:For anyone interested in learning more about MCB-OD crossings, there are 126 (when I posted this) posts here http://www.signalbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3467 Some of the posts have links to furhter info.Now I'm not one for the nanny state but I've never liked the half barrier type of crossing. If someone is stupid / reckless enough to try and dodge them then I'm afraid they deserve everything that is coming their way. However, the problem is they are endangering many others in the process. For this reason I am of the opinion that all crossings should be of the full barrier type.Network Rail are investigating an object detection system that would allow full barrier crossings to work automatically, without input from the signaller. Called something like MCB-OD and there are a couple of methods, radar and image recognition IIRC. Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 21:22 #42498 | |
BarryM
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No one in their right mind would do this! Says a lot in today's environment. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 21:35 #42502 | |
headshot119
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" said:" said:I haven't read through the later postings in the thread, I wonder if they've mentioned about the issues fog and slugs cause for the MCB-OD crossings." said:For anyone interested in learning more about MCB-OD crossings, there are 126 (when I posted this) posts here http://www.signalbox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3467 Some of the posts have links to furhter info.Now I'm not one for the nanny state but I've never liked the half barrier type of crossing. If someone is stupid / reckless enough to try and dodge them then I'm afraid they deserve everything that is coming their way. However, the problem is they are endangering many others in the process. For this reason I am of the opinion that all crossings should be of the full barrier type.Network Rail are investigating an object detection system that would allow full barrier crossings to work automatically, without input from the signaller. Called something like MCB-OD and there are a couple of methods, radar and image recognition IIRC. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Will they ever learn? 21/03/2013 at 21:38 #42503 | |
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Danny252
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" said:Network Rail are investigating an object detection system that would allow full barrier crossings to work automatically, without input from the signaller. Called something like MCB-OD and there are a couple of methods, radar and image recognition IIRC.Not so much "investigating" as "have started rolling out, subject to some alterations since the first implementations". Log in to reply |