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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 16:50 #43503
jwsetford
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Another FUN topic. name your favourite company and ill write letters of complaints to the companies who have fewest votes. for instance mine is XC.
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 16:55 #43504
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I'll list my top 5 :)

1. EMT
2. XC
3. Transpennine Express
4. Virgin
5. London Midland

and bottom 5 are:

1. East Coast
2. FGW
3. FCC
4. Greater Anglia
5. Northern

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:00 #43506
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why is EMT before XC! what have i said before. dont mention EMT in front of an XC driver. :angry:
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:02 #43507
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why is EMT before XC! what have i said before. dont mention EMT in front of an XC driver. :angry:
Those 2 are even so in alphabetical order.

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:03 #43508
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ah whys that. the delayed XC for when you went to sheffield
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:04 #43509
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ah whys that. the delayed XC?
Well that was annoying

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:13 #43511
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My favorite TOC is Arriva Trains Wales and then probably Virgin and then East Midland Trains.
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:21 #43513
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West Coast Railway Company, because they are the only TOC to exclusively operate proper trains.
"Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q)
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:28 #43514
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West Coast Railway Company, because they are the only TOC to exclusively operate proper trains.
Coughcough

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:34 #43516
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 17:54 #43518
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well BR dont exist now.
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:02 #43519
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why is EMT before XC! what have i said before. dont mention EMT in front of an XC driver. :angry:

What's wrong wi' EMT? One railway, and all that!

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:16 #43520
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More's the pity jwsetford
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:33 #43522
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British Railways, since privatisation the railways have gone from bad to worse.
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:37 #43523
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well BR dont exist now.
I think BR residual may disagree with that...

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:37 #43524
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British Railways, since privatisation the railways have gone from bad to worse.
I would disagree with that. It did get worse. but IMO its 10x better now than it was in the 80's

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:43 #43526
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I would disagree with that. It did get worse. but IMO its 10x better now than it was in the 80's

You obviously never worked on BR or on the privatised railway if thats what you think. I've worked on both & I can certainly say from my experience & all those people I worked with would agree with me rather than agree with you.

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:46 #43527
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I do work on the railway thank you very much, and today there are more trains, alot more passengers, and higher speeds, as well as more scope for problems it must be said, but that down to modern technology being what it is.
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:51 #43530
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BR had lots of loco hauled trains which is slower, and also we're geting lots of plans for better railways. besides transformations. so before this gets out of hand... lets just speak about current TOC's.
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:52 #43531
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There maybe more trains running on the network today, but most of the people you speak to who worked on the railways when it was BR much preferred it then when the railway was run by railwayman & not by accountants & the subsequent mass of paperwork involved in running a train from A to B.
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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 18:57 #43533
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BR had lots of loco hauled trains which is slower
you cant surely be suggesting a class 170 could be faster than a Ped on 5 from cambs to new st. :whistle:

on a serious note, loco hauled services are far more flexible operationally compared to units, and are usually slower, becuase theyre also longer.

for me it would have to EMT, with northern a close second

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 19:03 #43534
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BR had lots of loco hauled trains which is slower
you cant surely be suggesting a class 170 could be faster than a Ped on 5 from cambs to new st. :whistle:

on a serious note, loco hauled services are far more flexible operationally compared to units, and are usually slower, becuase theyre also longer.

for me it would have to EMT, with northern a close second
In theory a DMU/EMU will always be faster than a loco hauled set regardless of the number of coaches, as the power to weight is higher and more evenly distributed. For example Sheffield to St Pancras is almost exclusively class 222's because a HST can't keep to the TT, its too slow.

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 19:07 #43536
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on a serious note, loco hauled services are far more flexible operationally compared to units, and are usually slower, becuase theyre also longer.
Not always- it's much easier to couple two units as part of a service than it is to join two loco hauled trains together. Also, you can turn a unit around anywhere, whereas a loco-hauled train requires either a loop (while the loco gets in the way of other traffic) or a second loco to release it, unless a DVT or similar is used.

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 19:33 #43539
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In theory a DMU/EMU will always be faster than a loco hauled set regardless of the number of coaches, as the power to weight is higher and more evenly distributed. For example Sheffield to St Pancras is almost exclusively class 222's because a HST can't keep to the TT, its too slow.
Not borne out by Newton's Laws of Motion. The type of train is just an engineering answer to a complex problem which has to find the best balance between seating capacity (or tonnage to be hauled for freight), power source, distributed power throughout the train or one or two power cars or locomotives, operational requirements, maintenance capabilities and so on. Don't forget that Eurostar, DB ICE and SNCF TGV are all similar to the HST in that they have a power car at each end with passenger stock in between and they are all a tad quicker than a Voyager or Meridian.

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Favorite train operators 15/04/2013 at 19:38 #43540
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In theory a DMU/EMU will always be faster than a loco hauled set regardless of the number of coaches, as the power to weight is higher and more evenly distributed. For example Sheffield to St Pancras is almost exclusively class 222's because a HST can't keep to the TT, its too slow.
Not borne out by Newton's Laws of Motion. The type of train is just an engineering answer to a complex problem which has to find the best balance between seating capacity (or tonnage to be hauled for freight), power source, distributed power throughout the train or one or two power cars or locomotives, operational requirements, maintenance capabilities and so on. Don't forget that Eurostar, DB ICE and SNCF TGV are all similar to the HST in that they have a power car at each end with passenger stock in between and they are all a tad quicker than a Voyager or Meridian.
Eurostar and TGV are EMU's, yes they have power cars, but also powered bogies in most of the coaches

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