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| free 21/08/2013 at 01:22 #48686 | |
vontrapp
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I purchased Edinburgh but some players are playing the free-version; where can I download that?
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| free 21/08/2013 at 05:37 #48693 | |
Peter Bennet
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You can't, they will have it from when it was a donation-ware Sim. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| free 21/08/2013 at 17:45 #48721 | |
jc92
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" said:I purchased Edinburgh but some players are playing the free-version; where can I download that?not quite sure why you would want to, the payware version has a number of bug fixes and other additions. besides which, you've already got it. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| free 21/08/2013 at 21:22 #48726 | |
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Roadrunner
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This is typical SimSig behaviour - trying to withdraw something already published on the web. Peter Bennett did not even offer a copy of the freeware to someone who paid hard cash for the paid-for version! How mean can you get? Even if you pay for the precious sims, you are still a nobody as far as Peter is concerned.
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| free 21/08/2013 at 21:28 #48727 | |
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Peter Bennet
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Its obsolete - I don't even have a copy. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| free 21/08/2013 at 21:39 #48731 | |
headshot119
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" said:This is typical SimSig behaviour - trying to withdraw something already published on the web. Peter Bennett did not even offer a copy of the freeware to someone who paid hard cash for the paid-for version! How mean can you get? Even if you pay for the precious sims, you are still a nobody as far as Peter is concerned." said: I personally feel your post violates the highlighted forum rule, could the forum moderators please deal with this as such? I'm sure I'm not the only one who is tired of this behavior. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply The following users said thank you: Forest Pines, wain77, Hooverman, Steamer, GoochyB, SPADmad, NCC1701, UKTrainMan |
| free 21/08/2013 at 21:53 #48732 | |
BarryM
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" said:" said:He wanted to join a multiplayer session which ran the previous version.I purchased Edinburgh but some players are playing the free-version; where can I download that?not quite sure why you would want to, the payware version has a number of bug fixes and other additions. besides which, you've already got it. Barry Barry, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia Last edited: 21/08/2013 at 21:54 by BarryM Log in to reply |
| free 21/08/2013 at 21:59 #48734 | |
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arabianights
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whether it breaks the rules or not (I make no comment on that as it is not my place to do so) it would be a bad idea to try to "censor" stuff like that. Seems to me it's sensible to allow more or less any criticism (even if it isn't especially constructive) except if it is genuinely abusive - which the above definitely isn't. Any sensible company will want to hear customer complaints rather than having the customer go elsewhere (except, of course, for the abusive ones). Last edited: 21/08/2013 at 22:01 by arabianights Log in to reply |
| free 21/08/2013 at 22:12 #48735 | |
Steamer
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In addition to Karl's post, I would also argue that it also violates Rule 6.5: Quote: · Spamming is not permitted (the repetitive posting of the same or similar messages).From what I've seen, Roadrunner posts a message, ignores any counter-arguments posted, and then posts similar messages elsewhere, and again doesn't respond to replies. I agree to an extent with Arabiannights' point that he should be allowed to post his opinions even though few others agree with them, what I object to is the fact that he repeatedly posts the same stuff and then abandons the topic. Other users make controversial posts sometimes, but they do answer replies and generally enter into discussion, instead of posting exactly the same thing again and again. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: headshot119 |
| free 21/08/2013 at 22:16 #48736 | |
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Sam Tugwell
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Would this not also violate the following, Forum Rules said: Spamming is not permitted (the repetitive posting of the same or similar messages). EDIT Writing post whilst Steamer had posted. "Signalman Exeter" Last edited: 21/08/2013 at 22:17 by Sam Tugwell Reason: Identifying repitition Log in to reply |
| free 21/08/2013 at 22:27 #48737 | |
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jc92
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[quote="arabianights" post=48734 Any sensible company will want to hear customer complaints rather than having the customer go elsewhere (except, of course, for the abusive ones).[/quote] very much true, but as roadrunner hasn't bought any of the sims, he doesnt truly qualify as a customer. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| free 21/08/2013 at 22:28 #48738 | |
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jc92
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" said:very much true, however as roadrunner hasn't bought any products and nor would it seem he ever intends to, he doesnt really qualify as a customer. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Forest Pines |
| free 21/08/2013 at 23:19 #48741 | |
postal
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Roadrunner (just like other posters Kieran and Aaron before him/her) has issues with SimSig. These are obviously deeply held views which nothing anyone else posts is likely to change (except to the extent of entrenching his/her belief that the "SIMSIG INNER CIRCLE" are out to thwart whatever he/she believes to be right and true). This "SIMSIG INNER CIRCLE" must be expanding on a daily basis if the number of contrary posts is anything to go by! As there is not likely to be any change in Roadrunner's attitudes, and any attempt to censor or ban him/her will in all likelihood lead to him/her creating another Forum identity can we all not agree that whether we agree with the attitudes or not, we are not going to change them and there is nothing to be gained by trying to rebut anything that he/she posts. Provided he/she posts within the T&Cs of the Forum, then he/she has the right to do so. I personally believe that he/she has been sailing a bit close to the wind recently, but I wouldn't deny his/her right to have their say. That doesn't mean I have to agree but it also means I don't have to rise to the bait and prolong pointless and repetitive discussion just to bolster anyone's mistaken beliefs. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply The following user said thank you: BarryM |
| free 21/08/2013 at 23:59 #48745 | |
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vontrapp
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Sorry to veer off the subject but: As a member of this forum who wanted to join in with other members, their Edinburgh game, I could not. So, I have the paid version who could not join in an advertised game, on Simsig's website. Maybe 'a point for discussion'? Adrian Log in to reply |
| free 22/08/2013 at 04:11 #48749 | |
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JamesN
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It is an interesting and valid point Adrian, but I'm not sure there is a solution. Nor do I think there could easily be one. People on the forum elected to host an obsolete sim - that in itself isn't a problem, I could host a game of Didcot if I chose to, or paged KX - nothing says anybody can't. The issue arises that people don't necessarily have a copy of the old sim, and the license agreement we all clicked agree to when installing prohibits distribution. If SimSig were to make the free version available, or upgrade the free version so it worked with the paid version, they'd kill the entire business for the paid version. And people such as yourself, who have paid for the sim aren't going to be best pleased that others are getting for free that which you parted with your cash for. There are major differences in coding which prevent the two from working together as is and thus we are out of options. Log in to reply |
| free 22/08/2013 at 07:21 #48752 | |
northroad
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" said:it also means I don't have to rise to the bait and prolong pointless and repetitive discussion just to bolster anyone's mistaken beliefs.Ummm! Is that not what you are doing.... Log in to reply |
| free 22/08/2013 at 14:27 #48772 | |
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jc92
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" said:It is an interesting and valid point Adrian, but I'm not sure there is a solution. Nor do I think there could easily be one.unless old edinbrugh was made available to those who purchase the payware version via a controlled download or license requirement. it does seems slightly annoying that having spent money on the sim, i cannot enjoy a multiplayer session purely becuase I cannot access and older version I had for free. It is definetely possible to have both sims installed and running, its just a case of it being available to those who purchase a licence for the newer version. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| free 22/08/2013 at 14:55 #48777 | |
lazzer
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" said:Sorry to veer off the subject but:Funnily enough, this post actually brings the topic er, BACK on topic, as Roadrunner once again managed to turn it into an argument over how the Simsig operates. Last edited: 22/08/2013 at 14:55 by lazzer Log in to reply |
| free 22/08/2013 at 16:52 #48787 | |
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Forest Pines
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" said:" said:Which is a fairly common approach for software companies to take. For example Microsoft don't shout about it, but a licence for any of their products normally also covers any previous version of the same product. Last time I looked, the last version of DOS 6 was still available for download to Windows users.It is an interesting and valid point Adrian, but I'm not sure there is a solution. Nor do I think there could easily be one.unless old edinbrugh was made available to those who purchase the payware version via a controlled download or license requirement. Log in to reply |
| free 22/08/2013 at 21:15 #48800 | |
Gwasanaethau
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Forgive me if I have missed something here, but wouldn’t a solution to this be to host your own multiplayer session using the latest version of Edinburgh? That way anybody that doesn’t have the ‘free’ version can join in the fun. After all, you all paid for the new version, you might as well reap the benefits of it! 
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| free 22/08/2013 at 21:59 #48803 | |
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Danny252
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Hosting two separate Edinburgh games sounds like a good way to ensure that no one gets enough players!
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| free 23/08/2013 at 15:21 #48816 | |
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Gwasanaethau
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" said:Hosting two separate Edinburgh games sounds like a good way to ensure that no one gets enough players! Ah, didn’t think about that! Log in to reply |
| free 23/08/2013 at 22:00 #48820 | |
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arabianights
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" said:" said:I was going to disagree with this on the basis that he's a potential customer (of a signalling simulation, if not SimSig) but on giving it more thought, it occurs to me that there isn't really any competitor to SimSig (I appreciate there's stuff like PC Rail, and the more you move away from realism the more options you have including basically logic games on ipads where you control signals and points with no interlocking) and frankly signalling enthusiasts only have one option. The only question is whether someone can be turned into a siganlling enthusiast, or put slightly differently can SimSig market itself to another audience such as casual gamers, something I rather doubt unless they are a train enthusiast generally... in which case the free SimSigs will suffice to turn someone on to the concept.very much true, however as roadrunner hasn't bought any products and nor would it seem he ever intends to, he doesnt really qualify as a customer. So in fact SimSig can more or less do whatever they like. Outrageous conduct would eventually lead to a competitor I should imagine, but I can't see that SimSig have done anything outrageous (or even close to it). Still think that there's a bit of an overreaction to roadrunner (not by SimSig but by other memebers of the so-called "secret society" [tongue rather in cheek as I type that]) here as he is being pretty mild, but hey, both sides could be a lot, lot worse! TLDR: Everyone chill out :woohoo: Last edited: 23/08/2013 at 22:02 by arabianights Log in to reply |
| free 24/08/2013 at 10:59 #48824 | |
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Forest Pines
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" said:there isn't really any competitor to SimSigSignalsoft are very good. I can't remember if they include a timetable editor, but there are some features they do have that Simsig doesn't. Their user interface tries to be more realistic at the price of making it fiddlier to use - for example instead of a phone icon there's a picture of a phone concentrator with pushable buttons. They are all payware and definitely work out more expensive than the payware Simsig products in terms of track miles simulated per pound - their "flagship range" is currently about £175 as a bundle. Last edited: 24/08/2013 at 11:05 by Forest Pines Log in to reply |