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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 10:02 #50058
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For those who may be interested (or affected), yesterday a freight train derailed at Gloucester at about 20:30, They expect things to take a few days to get back to normal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-24549694
http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Freight-train-derails-Gloucester-Rail-Station/story-19935499-detail/story.html

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 10:34 #50060
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You shop we drop!


Also in the news the rather alarming report from the Camden New Journal regarding Monday's derailment on the NLL that "The line has for years been used for passenger trains [ ] carrying spent fuel from reactors at Sizewell and Bradwell nuclear power stations."

Picture of the dropped stiches here.

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 11:22 #50061
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You shop we drop!


Also in the news the rather alarming report from the Camden New Journal regarding Monday's derailment on the NLL that "The line has for years been used for passenger trains [ ] carrying spent fuel from reactors at Sizewell and Bradwell nuclear power stations."

Picture of the dropped stiches here.

Peter
Whoever decided its a good idea to 'speculate' that nuke flasks are involved should be shot. :blink:

Seems like they haven't seen the video of the said flask being tested out in a high speed collision

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 13:05 #50062
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You shop we drop!


Also in the news the rather alarming report from the Camden New Journal regarding Monday's derailment on the NLL that "The line has for years been used for passenger trains [ ] carrying spent fuel from reactors at Sizewell and Bradwell nuclear power stations."

Picture of the dropped stiches here.

Peter
Whoever decided its a good idea to 'speculate' that nuke flasks are involved should be shot. :blink:

Seems like they haven't seen the video of the said flask being tested out in a high speed collision
There isnt any speculation that the Flasks were involved, simply an indication that the public and dangerous substances also use the line (what better way to sell a story).

whats more alarming is the NLL being reported as popular...

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 15:07 #50066
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It was more the report of the fact that nuclear fuel rods were carried on passenger trains that intrigued me.

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 15:08 #50067
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You shop we drop!


Also in the news the rather alarming report from the Camden New Journal regarding Monday's derailment on the NLL that "The line has for years been used for passenger trains [ ] carrying spent fuel from reactors at Sizewell and Bradwell nuclear power stations."

Picture of the dropped stiches here.

Peter
Whoever decided its a good idea to 'speculate' that nuke flasks are involved should be shot. :blink:

Seems like they haven't seen the video of the said flask being tested out in a high speed collision
There isnt any speculation that the Flasks were involved, simply an indication that the public and dangerous substances also use the line (what better way to sell a story).

whats more alarming is the NLL being reported as popular...
Even if there isn't direct speculation, it does strike me as rather unwise to mention nuclear traffic in a report of a derailment of a "normal" train, as some less knowledgeable people may jump to the wrong conclusion.

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 15:20 #50068
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whats more alarming is the NLL being reported as popular...
Now that it is part of the Overground, it is popular enough that there are standing loads during the busy times.

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 15:35 #50069
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NR tits-up
I am on a Virgin train travelling to Euston.Rugby is stitched-up on the down-lines;no trains on the West Midlands line due to overhead problems.Delays at Congleton due to severe signalling problems; diversions via Crewe and cancellations. Plus the two derailments of freight-trains. 45mins delay at Lockerbie due to a failed freight-train,45mins delay at New Cross Gate due to signalling problems and 30 mins delay at Moofields due to line side equipment.
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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 16:11 #50071
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Seems also that the freight train was carrying no passengers....now that's encouraging to know......where do these guys come from and who regulates them.

http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/travel_2_3170/days_of_disruption_after_train_derails_at_camden_road_station_1_2883576

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 19:02 #50075
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What about the 60 refugees in the rear container?
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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 19:04 #50076
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What about the 60 refugees in the rear container?
only as far as the daily mail is concerned!

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 19:29 #50077
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For those who may be interested (or affected), yesterday a freight train derailed at Gloucester at about 20:30, They expect things to take a few days to get back to normal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-24549694
http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Freight-train-derails-Gloucester-Rail-Station/story-19935499-detail/story.html

James

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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 20:16 #50080
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and now the train I'm on has lost tilt. There's 20 mins delay at Barnt Green due to signalling problems and 40 mins delay at Rochester! What is up with the railway?
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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 20:26 #50081
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You shop we drop!


Also in the news the rather alarming report from the Camden New Journal regarding Monday's derailment on the NLL that "The line has for years been used for passenger trains [ ] carrying spent fuel from reactors at Sizewell and Bradwell nuclear power stations."

Picture of the dropped stiches here.

Peter
Whoever decided its a good idea to 'speculate' that nuke flasks are involved should be shot. :blink:

Seems like they haven't seen the video of the said flask being tested out in a high speed collision
There isnt any speculation that the Flasks were involved, simply an indication that the public and dangerous substances also use the line (what better way to sell a story).

whats more alarming is the NLL being reported as popular...
If you read the whole paragraph (ignoring the "eats shoots and leaves" bit) to my mind it clearly was written with the intention of [subliminal] scaremongering.

The line has for years been used for passenger trains and freight trains carrying spent fuel from reactors at Sizewell and Bradwell nuclear power stations. Rail crash investigators were on site today but would not say what cargo was on board when the train derailed. Camden Gardens was locked this morning with police tape around the gates.


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Gloucester Derailment 16/10/2013 at 20:29 #50082
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NR tits-up
I am on a Virgin train travelling to Euston.Rugby is stitched-up on the down-lines;no trains on the West Midlands line due to overhead problems.Delays at Congleton due to severe signalling problems; diversions via Crewe and cancellations. Plus the two derailments of freight-trains. 45mins delay at Lockerbie due to a failed freight-train,45mins delay at New Cross Gate due to signalling problems and 30 mins delay at Moofields due to line side equipment.
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and now the train I'm on has lost tilt. There's 20 mins delay at Barnt Green due to signalling problems and 40 mins delay at Rochester! What is up with the railway?
That's some route you are taking!

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Gloucester Derailment 17/10/2013 at 09:25 #50093
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whats more alarming is the NLL being reported as popular...

By the time London Overground took it over, a 15min interval service worked by 1 X 313 (3 cars) would have standing passengers at most times during the day, both weekdays and weekends. Since then the service has ramped up to 8tph worked by 4 car stock and still there are often a few standees; there is talk of extending trains to 5 cars (which is already happening on the East London Line section)!

I remember when it was an hourly (2-car Cravens) DMU from North Woolwich to Camden Road and you could often have a car to yourself off-peak; at CR they shunted forward onto the Primrose Hill line and set back into the up platform (CR had to put in a special description to Euston PSB... memory tells me it was 0S04 but I only spent a couple of shifts there learning so I may be wrong). They quite spectacularly failed to connect with the 'motor' - the 20min interval service from Broad St to Richmond that made regulating freight around the North london so difficult.

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Gloucester Derailment 17/10/2013 at 12:28 #50095
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I remember when it was an hourly (2-car Cravens) DMU from North Woolwich to Camden Road and you could often have a car to yourself off-peak; at CR they shunted forward onto the Primrose Hill line and set back into the up platform (CR had to put in a special description to Euston PSB... memory tells me it was 0S04 but I only spent a couple of shifts there learning so I may be wrong).
More likely 0S00 - see the original Euston instructions on my web site. They were written when Hampstead Road Junction was still there, but I see no reason why it would have changed.

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Gloucester Derailment 17/10/2013 at 15:20 #50101
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We're doing well this week - as well as the two well reported incidents at Camden Road and Gloucester, I've had reports of a Coalfish on the deck at Eastleigh, part of an East Coast HST off the road at Neville Hill (hence the hire in of an XC set for most of this week), and now reports are reaching me that 6B47 Robeston-Westerleigh has required the fire brigade at Haresfield Loop.
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Gloucester Derailment 17/10/2013 at 15:39 #50102
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part of an East Coast HST off the road at Neville Hill (hence the hire in of an XC set for most of this week)
That'd be 43318 taking a dive.

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Gloucester Derailment 18/10/2013 at 09:02 #50114
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I remember when it was an hourly (2-car Cravens) DMU from North Woolwich to Camden Road and you could often have a car to yourself off-peak; at CR they shunted forward onto the Primrose Hill line and set back into the up platform (CR had to put in a special description to Euston PSB... memory tells me it was 0S04 but I only spent a couple of shifts there learning so I may be wrong).
More likely 0S00 - see the original Euston instructions on my web site. They were written when Hampstead Road Junction was still there, but I see no reason why it would have changed.

Thanks Clive. It was a long time ago (summer/autumn 1979) and my poor grey cell isn't always reliable that far back. Well that's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it...

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Gloucester Derailment 18/10/2013 at 10:19 #50115
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I remember when it was an hourly (2-car Cravens) DMU from North Woolwich to Camden Road and you could often have a car to yourself off-peak; at CR they shunted forward onto the Primrose Hill line and set back into the up platform (CR had to put in a special description to Euston PSB... memory tells me it was 0S04 but I only spent a couple of shifts there learning so I may be wrong).
More likely 0S00 - see the original Euston instructions on my web site. They were written when Hampstead Road Junction was still there, but I see no reason why it would have changed.

Thanks Clive. It was a long time ago (summer/autumn 1979) and my poor grey cell isn't always reliable that far back. Well that's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it... :P

In fact, a number of the DMU workings, which had a longer turn-round at Camden Road, were booked to run forward to a siding on the down side approaching Primrose Hill, then returned in due course (I believe running via the down line) back to Camden Road to form their return working.

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Gloucester Derailment 18/10/2013 at 14:16 #50118
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The overground trains are mostly standing anyway as they are like the tube train only little cushions on the sides of the carriages
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