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| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 17:42 #51779 | |
welshdragon
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20.11.13: 221105 working the 10.10 Euston to Chester service slid into the buffers at Chester Platform 1. image Seems to be due to poor adhesion, although quite how that is possible on a bay platform with no foliage nearby begs the question, Maybe the driver overcooked it? Last edited: 20/11/2013 at 17:46 by welshdragon Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 17:59 #51781 | |
Steamer
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" said:If the area approaching Chester had poor adhesion, wouldn't some of the leaf mush be transferred onto the wheel, resulting in slipping? "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 18:24 #51782 | |
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jimgos2005
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I would imagine that this would be quite possible but still a little tricky to overshoot when in my experience all bay platforms have a 5/10M.P.H speed on the approach
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| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 18:26 #51783 | |
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AndyG
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Please don't speculate without knowing the circumstances.
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| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 18:39 #51785 | |
lazzer
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" said:Please don't speculate without knowing the circumstances. To be fair, it's not really possible to speculate once you're in possession of the facts ... :whistle: Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 18:50 #51786 | |
postal
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" said:" said:As any lawyer will tell you, facts and circumstances are two totally different things which is why it is always more difficult to get a conviction if you only have circumstantial evidence.Please don't speculate without knowing the circumstances. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 18:52 #51787 | |
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welshdragon
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sorry, this wasn't meant to be a speculative thread, more pointing out a current event! 
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| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 20:03 #51792 | |
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john havenhand
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I happen to know the driver 65 years and had no previous incidents so thinking most likely poor adhesion :cheer: one way to get rid of a voyager though Log in to reply The following user said thank you: welshdragon |
| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 21:26 #51793 | |
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welshdragon
315 posts |
" said:I happen to know the driver 65 years and had no previous incidents so thinking most likely poor adhesionor create a new through platform at Chester :lol: Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 21:48 #51794 | |
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Steam14xx
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Lol, woopsies :blink: , thats a bit of a fail. :lol:
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| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 22:55 #51796 | |
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Class 92
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" said:" said:Or extension.I happen to know the driver 65 years and had no previous incidents so thinking most likely poor adhesionor create a new through platform at Chester :lol: 
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| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 23:01 #51797 | |
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sloppyjag
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I love the fact that the destination blind has, rather optimistically, been changed to "Euston".
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| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 23:10 #51798 | |
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clive
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" said:I would imagine that this would be quite possible but still a little tricky to overshoot when in my experience all bay platforms have a 5/10M.P.H speed on the approachA driver friend of mine suddenly found he had no braking available three or four miles out of Skegness (IIRC). The wheels picked up again *just* in time to stop before the buffers, but any speed limit on the approach would have no effect. And there was that overrun in Kent a year or two back which went for a few miles. Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 20/11/2013 at 23:24 #51799 | |
headshot119
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I've just come back from Liverpool and went to have a look again on my way through Chester. Platform 3A has been cordoned off (For those who aren't familiar Platform 1 where the incident took place is the Euston facing bay platform accessed by passengers via 3A), lots of blinking stop boards evident. The front coach of the voyager is angled upwards. 57308 was sat on the through road, then moved off towards Crewe, I'll take a stab they'll use it to drag the Voyager clear, unfortunately I had to catch my train so couldn't stay to watch. Thoughts to the driver, and the rest of the crew. Being involved in any incident no matter how minor on a railway is never a nice feeling, even when it's through no fault of your own. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 21/11/2013 at 00:42 #51804 | |
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Hooverman
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If its like my route then not only will the driver be d&a so will the signaller. Having been through that process when you've nothing wrong, just so all the tick boxes are ticked is not nice. Thoughts with the passengers and railway staff involved. That's why I will never speculate in a public forum.
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| Whoops! 21/11/2013 at 09:05 #51810 | |
Peter Bennet
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Link posted on Scot-rail relating to an earlier incident at Chester. Bit more of a mess there. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply The following user said thank you: GoodbyeMrFish |
| Whoops! 21/11/2013 at 16:49 #51824 | |
onlydjw
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One of the emergency re-railing vehicles was reported on site this morning to re-rail it.
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| Whoops! 21/11/2013 at 21:35 #51835 | |
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pbinnersley
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" said:Link posted on Scot-rail relating to an earlier incident at Chester. Bit more of a mess there.Thanks for the link Peter. I've always wondered why there was an isolated section of canopy over the east end bays. Peter. Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 09/12/2013 at 14:59 #52574 | |
northroad
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I see from the RAIB alert today that they are looking at the rail adhesion problems that were encountered as the train entered Chester station. Will be interesting to see what the final report shows but they are also looking at the buffer arrangement in the bay. Geoff Log in to reply |
| Whoops! 09/12/2013 at 15:21 #52576 | |
pedroathome
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" said:I see from the RAIB alert today that they are looking at the rail adhesion problems that were encountered as the train entered Chester station. Will be interesting to see what the final report shows but they are also looking at the buffer arrangement in the bay.A link http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/current_investigations_register/131120_chester.cfm James Log in to reply |
