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| Alvechurch 17/08/2014 at 23:55 #63887 | |
DaveHarries
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Hi all, Members may (or may not) be aware that the railway between Barnt Green and Redditch has been under possession since the end of June to allow for works to take place at Alvechurch, namely the addition of a new platform at the station and redoubling of 1.8 miles of track. The line closure remains in place, I belive, until the end of August. However once the December 2014 TT changes take effect the frequency between Redditch and Birmingham New Street will be made 3 trains per hour instead of the present 2: the new times are already up on Open Train Times. Is there any hope, perhaps, of the Redditch line (South Top panel) being coverted from this.....  ..... to something which, by my impression although I don't know for certain, may well look something like this.....  It will have to be done if timetables are to be created for Saltley in the future. Just means a choice of eras, say "post 2014" and "pre 2014" or something like that. Should last until 2017 when the new station opens at Bromsgrove..... Just a thought. Dave Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Banners88 |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 09:04 #63890 | |
broodje
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I gues there is an higher chance of this being implented if someone knows how it realy looks, including signal arangements, TC brakes overlaps, distances etc. by the way, the overlap symbol comming from Redditch is at a strange position on your picture, before the signal head, instead of past it. Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 09:19 #63891 | |
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peterb
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" said:the overlap symbol comming from Redditch is at a strange position on your picture, before the signal head, instead of past it.This would be how it appears on the current Simsig. Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 11:03 #63893 | |
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Jan
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There's a set of engineering drawings (attention, large PDF) from the planning application available on Network Rail's homepage. While it doesn't include everything that would be needed for Simsig, it shows some additional details.
Two million people attempt to use Birmingham's magnificent rail network every year, with just over a million of them managing to get further than Smethwick. Last edited: 18/08/2014 at 11:03 by Jan Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 11:08 #63894 | |
jc92
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This option would also require remodelling of moor st station and the stratford on avon line which is covered by WMCC which is quite possibly a conflict of interest
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| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 11:21 #63895 | |
headshot119
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" said:This option would also require remodelling of moor st station and the stratford on avon line which is covered by WMCC which is quite possibly a conflict of interestWould it, you could just modify the Redditch branch on its own? The new redoubled redditch branch will be controlled from Saltley, not the WMSCC, and in itself wouldn't be a conflict of interest. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Last edited: 18/08/2014 at 11:22 by headshot119 Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 11:24 #63896 | |
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tjfrancis
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" said:This option would also require remodelling of moor st station and the stratford on avon line which is covered by WMCC which is quite possibly a conflict of interest i thought that moor st station is still under Saltley I am dyslexic so please consider this when reading my posts Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 12:03 #63899 | |
Steamer
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" said:" said:Nope, went over to West Midlands SCC when the bays at Moor Street reopened. As mentioned in this thread, only South Top panel remains in use in the original Saltley PSB.This option would also require remodelling of moor st station and the stratford on avon line which is covered by WMCC which is quite possibly a conflict of interest Shirley, Henley-in-Arden and Bearley Jn (which also controlled Stratford) have also gone over to WMSCC. A new crossover at Stratford was installed to allow direct access to Platforms 2 and 3. The crossover at Shirley was moved to Whitlocks End and trains now terminate at the latter instead of the former. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Last edited: 18/08/2014 at 12:09 by Steamer Log in to reply The following user said thank you: tjfrancis |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 14:03 #63901 | |
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Danny252
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" said:" said:That'd make creating a timetable a rather awkward exercise, unless you somehow merge a pre-Moor St remodelling TT on the GW lines, and a post-Alvechurch Loop TT on the Midland lines.This option would also require remodelling of moor st station and the stratford on avon line which is covered by WMCC which is quite possibly a conflict of interestWould it, you could just modify the Redditch branch on its own? The new redoubled redditch branch will be controlled from Saltley, not the WMSCC, and in itself wouldn't be a conflict of interest. Last edited: 18/08/2014 at 14:04 by Danny252 Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 16:50 #63903 | |
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peterb
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" said:" said:His point was that if you only modify the Redditch branch, the option of a post-2014 era on Saltley would not be technically correct since areas covered under WMCC would still be pre-2014 because of conflicts of interest in replicating them.This option would also require remodelling of moor st station and the stratford on avon line which is covered by WMCC which is quite possibly a conflict of interestWould it, you could just modify the Redditch branch on its own? The new redoubled redditch branch will be controlled from Saltley, not the WMSCC, and in itself wouldn't be a conflict of interest. Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 17:31 #63904 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Moor Street was remodelled after the line went over to the WMSC. The new section of line at Alvechurch is controlled by a separate NX panel in Saltley PSB. The Moor Street modifications are not all that is different now to when Saltley PSB was open. There are a lot more signals, and a lot of points have moved a long way. It would almost be a new sim to create an era as the signalling in this area is today. Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 17:45 #63905 | |
belly buster
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Message deleted Peter Last edited: 18/08/2014 at 18:02 by Peter Bennet Log in to reply |
| Alvechurch 18/08/2014 at 18:21 #63906 | |
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DaveHarries
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Regarding the Stratford route there is a point here as there is also now a Stratford Parkway between Bearley Junction and Stratford upon Avon. A visit might clear up details of the signalling IDs but only if you can get in such a place as to find out what you wish to know. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratford_Parkway_railway_station Dave Log in to reply |