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The Real Feltham Panel 07/12/2014 at 22:27 #66314
madaboutrains
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316 posts 		For those who would like to see a representation of the real Feltham signal box.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4cN1n8sdJnxWFBkUUQ3NmtIc1U/view?usp=sharing

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The Real Feltham Panel 07/12/2014 at 23:03 #66316
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368 posts 		" said:
For those who would like to see a representation of the real Feltham signal box.



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Shame it doesn't allow you to just download the PDF.
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The Real Feltham Panel 07/12/2014 at 23:11 #66319
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Online 		I clicked on print and I have a printer option to "save as pdf" - in the past I've used the "Microsoft XPS document writer" which creates a file akin to pdf.

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The Real Feltham Panel 07/12/2014 at 23:31 #66320
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316 posts 		In that case it makes it useless to have a prevent download feature!
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The Real Feltham Panel 07/12/2014 at 23:44 #66321
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368 posts 		" said:
In that case it makes it useless to have a prevent download feature!
If you can't download it, there's not much point uploading it in the first place.
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The Real Feltham Panel 07/12/2014 at 23:46 #66323
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587 posts 		" said:
In that case it makes it useless to have a prevent download feature!
What is the point of sharing something publically and not being prepared to allow people to download it? Are we not trustworthy enough?

Just saying...
Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait!
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The Real Feltham Panel 08/12/2014 at 06:47 #66330
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Online 		" said:
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In that case it makes it useless to have a prevent download feature!
What is the point of sharing something publically and not being prepared to allow people to download it? Are we not trustworthy enough?

Just saying...
Especially as it does not seem possible to zoom to a resolution that's of any use.

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The Real Feltham Panel 08/12/2014 at 07:21 #66331
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495 posts 		Dan,

Is this the diagram in which I found 70-something errors?

Seriously, get it right.
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The Real Feltham Panel 08/12/2014 at 10:47 #66335
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315 posts 		Juat going to say that if you want to prevent downloads, sharing files on a Cloud server isn't the best idea, as it's so easy to open the file in your own PDF viewer and save a copy.
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The Real Feltham Panel 08/12/2014 at 19:03 #66362
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316 posts 		I also keep all sharable diagram non-download able anyway
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The Real Feltham Panel 08/12/2014 at 19:51 #66365
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6380 posts 		Downloaded fine for me too.

ETA: While the Google thing supposedly prevents downloading, doing one very simple and public action causes it to download in order to achieve that action. No underhand tactics, hacking, or anything else questionable required. Very bizarre and somewhat defeats the object of that "do not download" field!
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The Real Feltham Panel 08/12/2014 at 21:18 #66366
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1461 posts 		" said:
Downloaded fine for me too.

ETA: While the Google thing supposedly prevents downloading, doing one very simple and public action causes it to download in order to achieve that action. No underhand tactics, hacking, or anything else questionable required. Very bizarre and somewhat defeats the object of that "do not download" field!
And the very act of viewing it downloads it to your computer anyway - so the only way to stop people from saving the data is to make it totally inaccessible!
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The Real Feltham Panel 08/12/2014 at 21:42 #66367
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718 posts 		Yeah - you may as well give up if you want some but not all forms of access to media like documents/photos/etc. - even if you have a proprietary Windows-only reader that is airtight in every other respect, even if you take control of someone's computer such that they can't even take screenshots, there's always what's known as the "analogue hole" - get a decent camera and take photos of the screen ;)

This is even more seamless for audio, where you can just record what your sound card is playing and rarely notice a difference.

Maybe the reason Google does this is to make it clear that the "do not download" thing really doesn't protect anything? I don't know.
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 10:28 #66385
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315 posts 		or, even easier, embed a watermark into the image.
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 19:00 #66393
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316 posts 		What do you mean by watermark?
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 19:06 #66394
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771 posts 		Google "watermark" the first response is wikipedia....it will tell you all you need to know.
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 19:12 #66395
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316 posts 		Dont see why that would help
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 19:27 #66397
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718 posts 		It would presumably mean that if someone tried to reproduce it, anyone looking at it would know it was copied from you or whatever. It depends what your motivations are on protecting it in the first place.
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 19:31 #66399
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6380 posts 		PDFs aren't that secure. A watermark is fairly easy to remove anyway.
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 20:26 #66401
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316 posts 		Yep, PDFs are so easy to change - even its locked with a password.
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The Real Feltham Panel 09/12/2014 at 22:14 #66403
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4869 posts 		I still don't get why you want to stop people downloading a document you're sharing to a cloud storage system, then posting a link for people to see it, but there we go.
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The Real Feltham Panel 27/04/2020 at 13:24 #126365
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234 posts 		Can I ask what I guess is a daft lady question (!!). I have just bought Feltham (my17th)and I am enjoying it...but.Is there any reason it plays from left to right? I think all my other sims play in the direction of the say a rail map. It would be easier if Clapham Junction app was on the right and the loop and Eton were on the top. anyway that my tuppence worth.
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The Real Feltham Panel 27/04/2020 at 13:28 #126366
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Online 		It's saying "this text is hidden as your lot logged in" for me, when Ive logged out and in again??
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The Real Feltham Panel 27/04/2020 at 13:31 #126367
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4869 posts 		tynie123 in post 126365 said:
Can I ask what I guess is a daft lady question (!!). I have just bought Feltham (my17th)and I am enjoying it...but.Is there any reason it plays from left to right? I think all my other sims play in the direction of the say a rail map. It would be easier if Clapham Junction app was on the right and the loop and Eton were on the top. anyway that my tuppence worth.
Which way round a sim is will have nothing to do with a map, take Wembley mainline, Euston is on the right as that's where it is on the real panel. Rugby on the other hand has Euston towards the left as that's how the real box has it.

elltrain3 in post 126366 said:
It's saying "this text is hidden as your lot logged in" for me, when Ive logged out and in again??
It was a hold over from an older version of the forum, I've sorted that now, but unfortunately the original link doesn't work anymore.
"Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer
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The Real Feltham Panel 27/04/2020 at 13:55 #126369
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234 posts 		ok thought I would ask.
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