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| Changes to train classification 14/01/2015 at 14:24 #67807 | |
Jersey_Mike
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Are there any goods trains that move at passenger train speeds like intermodal or mail/express? Also does the Sim handle tilting trainsets which may have their own set of speeds?
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| Changes to train classification 14/01/2015 at 15:06 #67808 | |
Steamer
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" said:Are there any goods trains that move at passenger train speeds like intermodal or mail/express? Also does the Sim handle tilting trainsets which may have their own set of speeds?Intermodals (as far as I'm aware) are all Class 4s, with a limit of 75mph. If the freight/passenger limit on a section of line is different, they will use the former. There have been trials of 90mph freight, but I don't think they've come to anything. The handful of mail trains that run (London- Warrington- Glasgow and London- Newcastle) run as Class 1 (same as express passenger). The type of EMU used (Cl. 325) has a maximum speed of 100mph, and uses passenger speed limits where applicable. Tilt speeds are supported by SimSig, and are selected with the EPS-E and EPS-D checkboxes, depending if the train is diesel (Cl. 221 'Voyager'  or electric (Cl.390 'Pendolino).
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| Changes to train classification 14/01/2015 at 16:15 #67809 | |
Peter Bennet
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" said:" said:Motherwell uses the tilt differentialsAre there any goods trains that move at passenger train speeds like intermodal or mail/express? Also does the Sim handle tilting trainsets which may have their own set of speeds?Intermodals (as far as I'm aware) are all Class 4s, with a limit of 75mph. If the freight/passenger limit on a section of line is different, they will use the former. There have been trials of 90mph freight, but I don't think they've come to anything. The handful of mail trains that run (London- Warrington- Glasgow and London- Newcastle) run as Class 1 (same as express passenger). The type of EMU used (Cl. 325) has a maximum speed of 100mph, and uses passenger speed limits where applicable. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| Changes to train classification 14/01/2015 at 17:21 #67810 | |
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Finger
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" said:While there are generic COS rules governing the list Clive mentioned in his first posting (EMU, DMU etc etc) Loco-H is not mentioned. In the Train Types tab of the TT editor, you can set up the train characteristics but there is no option to set the Class of Service. This can be done in the individual train TT on the Train Characteristics tab. Are you talking about some as yet unreleased version of the loader? Log in to reply |
| Changes to train classification 14/01/2015 at 22:03 #67819 | |
postal
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" said:" said:Apologies. Using v4.3.1 which is still under test.While there are generic COS rules governing the list Clive mentioned in his first posting (EMU, DMU etc etc) Loco-H is not mentioned. In the Train Types tab of the TT editor, you can set up the train characteristics but there is no option to set the Class of Service. This can be done in the individual train TT on the Train Characteristics tab. “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |
| Changes to train classification 15/01/2015 at 14:35 #67871 | |
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clive
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I know this refers to an unreleased feature, but I think it's worth discussing anyway. " said: Right, but that's why you can add your own rules. Quote: Correct. Apart from the technical issues of implementing it (discussed further below), it didn't seem to me to properly fit the model. A class 306, for example, can reasonably be passenger, goods (newspaper), or ECS. Class of service was traditionally set by the headcode and whether it was a passenger or goods train, nothing else. The more recent changes were an attempt (flawed in my opinion, but I'm not the boss) to handle LU trains that misuse the headcode system. Quote: Class of service is primarily a signaller's management feature, not a physical thing. If it's a goods train, it should be running under a goods headcode. You don't decide whether a 47 with 7 on is an ECS by looking at the rolling stock; you look to see if it's running as a class 5 or not. And so on. In some places you might know that (say) 9xxx is a passenger while in other places it would be a goods, or 9Sxx might be ECS while 9Ixx are passenger. Etc. Quote: While individual timetable obviously trumps everything else, there's a serious question as to whether train type should override headcode or not. If headcode overrides train type, then the latter would be ignored because there are rules for every possible headcode (or I have to add a "check train type" option, which gets nasty). If train type overrides headcode, then if you set the type on 47-plus-7 to be passenger, you have to hand-code every ECS working with that type and, believe me, that gets very painful very fast. (It was painful enough for the 100+ ECS moves on WembleySub that shared a headcode with passenger workings.) I can't see a good way of doing it. But I think you're looking at things wrongly - this isn't an inherent property of a train, but of what it's currently doing. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: postal |
| Changes to train classification 15/01/2015 at 16:33 #67877 | |
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postal
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Clive I did say it was taking time for me to get my head round it! “In life, there is always someone out there, who won’t like you, for whatever reason, don’t let the insecurities in their lives affect yours.” – Rashida Rowe Log in to reply |