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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 13:31 #67092 | |
DaveHarries
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Afternoon all, I have just been looking in the Network Rail WTT for information on these trains but I cannot find them. If things are correct they should be in the Sunday TT of booklet YA but all I can find is passenger trains and indeed the index document says that the info includes " contains passenger and parcels train services, together with associated stock and any light engine movements" but all I can find are passenger trains which is odd. Does anyone know the train IDs for: - http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/H16406/2015-02-01 - http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/H16425/2015-02-01 I guess both trains are serving what I have marked on SimSig (a TT for which is why I need the information). In addition, RTT says that the above train is pathed as a "Diesel locomotive, trailing load 2000 tonnes" while the second one is a "Diesel locomotive, trailing load 600 tonnes". if anyone has any info on: - the reporting codes - how I should set this up (in terms of a) Accel / Braking Rate b) Length c) Maximum Speed (provided by RTT) then I would be grateful to receive it. One last point regarding the latter train. The WTT for the Mountsorrell train refers to "Welwyn G.C. F.D" which is, I presume, a freight depot. Seeing as I don't know the area at all, where would this be located? ATM I can only think to use the up sidings at Welwyn GC as no "FD" is marked. Cheers, Dave Last edited: 27/12/2014 at 14:34 by DaveHarries Log in to reply |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 13:55 #67094 | |
jc92
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The links are duds? Mountsorrel is a stone terminal, so I assume these are freight services, in which case you wont find them in YA which is a passenger WTT. There is a seperate section for freight. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 13:56 #67095 | |
Finger
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You'll have to edit the links to opentraintimes, this way they don't work
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 14:45 #67099 | |
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Danny252
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Additionally, you can't really rely on the WTT for freight services. Whilst freightliner/intermodal services tend to run to the WTT, any thing else can either run to the WTT, run to modified timings, or not run at all (sometimes staying in the WTT for years after a train has stopped running) - and then there's all the freight that doesn't appear in the WTT at all!
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 17:04 #67110 | |
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Underwood
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You want YH for the freight
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 17:31 #67116 | |
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DaveHarries
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Got that. Thanks. What type of wagons are these? In this photo, which shows a 6M33 working..... https://www.flickr.com/photos/jameswelham/8628288616/in/photostream/ ..... and those wagons look the same type as seen here..... https://www.flickr.com/photos/21611052@N02/15037182634 Are those the same type as the wagons shown in the first photo? In the first photo I make 41 wagons which, i think, makes the whole train 366.7m long if I am right (2x ECS Class 66 @ 21m each + 41x PGA wagons @ 7.92m each = 42m + 324.72m = 366.72m) and that could easily be done as a reverse at Langley Junction if I have things right. But are those wagons MTA Open Ballast or something else? I am using the length calculator that can be downloaded here..... ..... but I am none the wiser. Clarification welcome. Dave Last edited: 27/12/2014 at 17:42 by DaveHarries Log in to reply |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 17:54 #67121 | |
belly buster
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The wagons are Lafarge aggregates PGA hoppers.
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 18:20 #67124 | |
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TimTamToe
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Dave you may also get an idea from looking at previous TT's for lengths, settings etc Gareth Log in to reply |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/12/2014 at 22:16 #67131 | |
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Stanyon
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hi davehere you go... Sector 5 is DB Schenker working normally a class 66 Train 6H67 runs SUN from 01/02/15 to 01/02/15 Type VAR Diesel Loco Timed at 060mph Sector 5 Train service code 56120628 Peterborough West Yard 0816 P'boro Eastfield Jn. 0818 Peterborough 0820 Peterborough East Jn. 0821 Whittlesea 0830 March 0843 Ely North Jn 0905 Ely 0909 Ely Dock Jn 0910 Coldham Lane Jn 0929 Cambridge 0930 Shepreth Branch Jn 0934 Royston 0951 Letchworth Garden City 1007 Hitchin 1011 Stevenage 1019 Langley Jn 1022-1024 Langley Redlands 1029 the other one............ Train 6M33 runs SUN from 14/12/14 to 10/05/15 Type WTT Diesel Loco Timed at 060mph Sector 5 Train service code 56120628 Langley Redlands 1606 Woolmer Green Jn. 1614 Digswell Jn. 1617 Welwyn G.C. F.D. 1622-1655 Digswell Jn. 1657 Woolmer Green Jn. 1700 Stevenage 1705 Hitchin 1710 Sandy 1725 Huntingdon 1740 Holme Jn. 1751 Fletton Jn. 1758 Peterborough 1801-1810 Helpston Jn. 1817 Uffington Sb (Lincs) 1824 Ketton S.B. 1830 Luffenham 1833 Manton Jn 1837 Oakham 1841 Langham Jn. 1842 Ashwell L.C. 1844 Whissendine L.C. 1846 Melton Mowbray 1853 Frisby 1857 Syston East Jn 1906-1912 Syston North Jn 1914 Sileby Jn 1921 Mountsorrel Sdgs 1926 hope this helps any more just ask..... Log in to reply The following user said thank you: DaveHarries |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 28/12/2014 at 10:45 #67140 | |
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DaveHarries
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Aye thanks. I already wrote those in by using OTT. Just wasn't sure what lengths but I have set them up as follows: 6H67: 2x Class 66 @ 21m + 41x PGA Balast Wagons @ 7.92m = 42m + 324.72m = 366.72m so I have set up 6H67 as 367m 6M33: 1x Class 66 @ 21m + 41x PGA Balast Wagons @ 7.92m = 21m + 324.72m = 345.72m so I have set up 6M33 as 346m I have, however, seen it suggested that 6H67 would be unlikely to run with 2x Class 66 as the reverse move at Langley Junction to get 6H67 into the stone terminal would simply be a case of the Class 66 pushing the train in. If I shortened the train to be 1x 66 instead of 2 when would SimSig still take it? Dave Log in to reply |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 28/12/2014 at 13:10 #67143 | |
58050
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According to the freight trains loads book the length limit for trains to Langley Junction or Mountsorrel is 60SLUs in both directions. That's 384m in total incl. the loco. So the lengths you have set for both trains are OK.
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 31/12/2014 at 12:46 #67245 | |
onlydjw
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6H67 and 6M33 did run top & tailed at times because engineering work required it, but normally only 1 66 is used. The other item to note is that the train is a self-discharge train, and so the consist includes the unloading wagon, which from memory is a KJA (similar to a KFA frame). Looking at your photos, you have 20 of the 4 wheel hoppers (PHA), then the unloader (KJA), then another 20 4 wheel hoppers (PHA). God bless, Daniel Wilson Last edited: 31/12/2014 at 12:47 by onlydjw Log in to reply |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/05/2015 at 00:18 #72763 | |
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uboat
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is this timetable available for download as it was used in a multi play session?
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/05/2015 at 00:57 #72764 | |
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John
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It's not in the download area, so no.
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/05/2015 at 07:11 #72769 | |
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uboat
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maybe Dave is testing it before uploading it.
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/05/2015 at 17:09 #72780 | |
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tjfrancis
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dave was testing it out before he uploads it
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| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/05/2015 at 18:30 #72781 | |
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DaveHarries
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Correct TJ. Dave Log in to reply |
| Freight queries, 01-Feb-2015 27/05/2015 at 20:27 #72783 | |
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tjfrancis
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thanks dave
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