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| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 21:33 #68106 | |
Steamer
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Hi all, I'm currently writing a 2015 TT for NWC. Does anyone know where I can find the stock diagrams for the 158 and 175 fleets, or have a copy that they'd be able to share? Failing that, does anyone know what forms 2D52, 06:51 Llandudno Jn- Llandudno? Any info appreciated "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 21:44 #68107 | |
peterb
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Steamer, check my 2014 WTT can't imagine it will have changed very much.
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| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 21:46 #68108 | |
HST125Scorton
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2D52 is a AWT Class 150/2 then forms 1K05 to Crewe. Hope that helps Aaron (AJRO) | Timetable Writer Log in to reply |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 21:52 #68109 | |
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peterb
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1K05 is formed by 2D50 at LLD.
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| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 22:03 #68110 | |
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Steamer
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So far I have: 5D02 with a 158 for 1K02, and a 150 for both 2D10 and 2D49. 1K02 is definitely a 158 as it ends up at Machynlleth, 2D10 is the Ffestiniog unit and 2D49 eventually forms 1K05. 5D50 goes to 1H80, which is a 175. I had wondered if it split to form 2D52, but that would involve a unit sitting in Llandudo Jn for ages- I was wondering if one stabled there overnight? "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 22:34 #68112 | |
headshot119
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" said:So far I have:You are correct with 5D02. No units stable at Llandudno Junction overnight. "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Last edited: 19/01/2015 at 22:39 by headshot119 Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 22:37 #68114 | |
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peterb
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Nothing stables in LLJ on weekday night. 2D49 is probably formed by 5D50 though can't confirm, also can't confirm it's a 150. Changes I do know of: 19.24 Shrewsbury - Holyhead is 175 (forms 07.15 ex HHD) 17.50 Manchester - Holyhead is 2x175/0 splits at the Junction. No changes to VT NWC diagrams. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 22:42 #68116 | |
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peterb
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Headshot, 2D50 is formed by 2D51 --> formed by 2D49.
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| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 22:49 #68117 | |
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headshot119
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" said:Headshot, 2D50 is formed by 2D51 --> formed by 2D49.Indeed the diagrams have totally changed up that way it seems since I last looked. It used to split three ways, one went straight to Manchester, one went to Llandudno then Manchester, the other went Llandudno, Junction, Llandudno, Manchester. The other obvious change to the diagrams are: 1D51 CRE 0711 - CTR 0730 1H82 CTR 0738 - MAN 0856 1D34 MAN 0950 - HHD 1239 1H89 HHD 1301 - MAN 1556 1D31 MAN 1650 - LLD 1904 1K96 LLD 1934 - CRE 2106 are now formed 67 + 4xMK3 + DVT "Passengers for New Lane, should be seated in the rear coach of the train " - Opinions are my own and not those of my employer Last edited: 19/01/2015 at 22:55 by headshot119 Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 22:56 #68118 | |
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Steamer
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" said:Nothing stables in LLJ on weekday night. 2D49 is probably formed by 5D50 though can't confirm, also can't confirm it's a 150.I was basing it off the fact that 1K05 is timed for 75mph and the unit subsequently works the Crewe-Chester shuttle, but I know timing loads aren't gospel. As it comes off 5D50 it's either a 150 or 158 as you can't multi 175s with 15x. Quote: 19.24 Shrewsbury - Holyhead is 175 (forms 07.15 ex HHD)Thanks, knew about the split but not that they were both /0. Would ATW be likely to give a copy if I asked them? Would be a useful thing to have if ever other areas of Wales were simulated *cough* Cardiff *cough*. Thanks for all the help so far. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 23:04 #68120 | |
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headshot119
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They might there isn't any harm in asking. If they come through would you mind forwarding me a copy?
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| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 23:17 #68122 | |
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peterb
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^^^ Ditto please. " said: I was basing it off the fact that 1K05 is timed for 75mph and the unit subsequently works the Crewe-Chester shuttle, but I know timing loads aren't gospel.Yes you're probably right. I was thrown slightly since 1K05 is a new service. Log in to reply |
| ATW diagrams 19/01/2015 at 23:53 #68126 | |
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welshdragon
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67 + LHCS: "Gerald" Holyhead 05:33, Bangor 06:01, Llandudno Junction 06:19, Rhyl 06:38, Flint 06:55, Chester 07:10-07:15 (reverse), Wrexham General 07:32, Shrewsbury 08:09, Newport 09:41, Cardiff Central 09:58. Cardiff Central 17:21, Newport 17:35, Abergavenny 17:56, Hereford 18:23, Shrewsbury 19:11, Wrexham General 19:45, Chester 20:02-20:05 (reverse), Flint 20:18, Rhyl 20:33, Colwyn Bay 21#0:44, Llandudno Junction 20:50, Bangor 21:09, Holyhead 21:38. 1D51 07:11 Crewe - Chester 07:30 1H82 07:38 Chester - Manchester Pic 08:51 1D34 09:50 Manchester Pic - Holyhead 12:36 1H89 13:01 Holyhead - Manchester Pic 15:51 1D31 16:50 Manchester Pic- Llandudno 19:03 1K96 19:34 Llandudno - Crewe 21:06 from nwrail.org.uk Log in to reply |
| ATW diagrams 28/01/2015 at 15:06 #68516 | |
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Steamer
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" said:They might there isn't any harm in asking. If they come through would you mind forwarding me a copy?" said: ^^^ Ditto please.Sorry chaps, they replied today saying that the information wasn't readily available from Fleet Management. Ah well, it was worth a shot. I'll continue the development of the TT, the information posted on this thread and my own deductions/observations should make it reasonably accurate. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |