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| Eurostars on VSE 24/03/2015 at 18:03 #70231 | |
GW43125
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Afternoon all, I was curious as to whether anyone had a copy of the working timetable pre-2007, showing Eurostar movements through the VSE control area? If anyone has, I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 18:16 #70251 | |
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Jersey_Mike
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I rode the Eurostar back in 1994 or 1995 and I remember it being abysmally slow as we crawled out of the London commuting district. Were those trains scheduled behind locals or was the line speed on the order of 60mph?
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| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 18:42 #70252 | |
Splodge
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Out of interest, does anything use the link between Fawkham Jn and Southfleet Jn any more?
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| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 18:56 #70253 | |
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arabianights
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" said:Out of interest, does anything use the link between Fawkham Jn and Southfleet Jn any more?yes some departmental stuff Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 19:55 #70254 | |
Steamer
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" said:I rode the Eurostar back in 1994 or 1995 and I remember it being abysmally slow as we crawled out of the London commuting district. Were those trains scheduled behind locals or was the line speed on the order of 60mph?It's no more than 60 for the first 15 miles or so, then various speeds up to a maximum of 80. I imagine pathing was also an issue, as the service frequency down there would make it impossible to give a non-stop service a proper run. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 22:19 #70256 | |
GeoffM
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" said:I rode the Eurostar back in 1994 or 1995 and I remember it being abysmally slow as we crawled out of the London commuting district. Were those trains scheduled behind locals or was the line speed on the order of 60mph?Up to 100mph for Eurostars. It's probably the track quality that confused you - it feels slower on smooth track. Obviously you could have been delayed for some reason but generally the Eurostars were flighted (2 trains 5 minutes apart) to try to get a clear run, with local trains being looped to let them past. SimSig Boss Last edited: 25/03/2015 at 22:23 by GeoffM Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 22:50 #70257 | |
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Noisynoel
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" said:" said:Actually that's not correct, there may be a test train every 6 - 12 months or so but that's it. The only time it's used now I for Southeastern services that are diverted if part of HS1 is blockedOut of interest, does anything use the link between Fawkham Jn and Southfleet Jn any more?yes some departmental stuff Noisynoel Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 22:56 #70260 | |
DriverCurran
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That is if we can find a driver that now signs the track between at least Swanley and Southfleet Junction Paul You have to get a red before you can get any other colour Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 23:45 #70268 | |
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Noisynoel
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You mean a driver other than Kent?
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| Eurostars on VSE 25/03/2015 at 23:50 #70270 | |
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DriverCurran
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Indeed, and sadly we only have one Kent
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| Eurostars on VSE 26/03/2015 at 09:08 #70287 | |
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kbarber
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" said:" said:I rode the Eurostar back in 1994 or 1995 and I remember it being abysmally slow as we crawled out of the London commuting district. Were those trains scheduled behind locals or was the line speed on the order of 60mph?Up to 100mph for Eurostars. It's probably the track quality that confused you - it feels slower on smooth track. Definitely... first Eurostar trip we did, I took a few timings and was greatly surprised at the speeds we were making. And that was after having had the same experience years before when HSTs and MkIIIs first came on the scene. The Eurostar ride only becomes noticeably interesting at speeds higher than you'll get on the classic system, up to about 140mph it's difficult to appreciate how fast you're going by observation or feel. Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 26/03/2015 at 12:03 #70291 | |
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Jersey_Mike
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" said:" said:I distinctly remember passing through commuter stations at speeds in the 40-60mph range for like an hour. It felt like we were stuck behind something." said:I rode the Eurostar back in 1994 or 1995 and I remember it being abysmally slow as we crawled out of the London commuting district. Were those trains scheduled behind locals or was the line speed on the order of 60mph?Up to 100mph for Eurostars. It's probably the track quality that confused you - it feels slower on smooth track. Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 26/03/2015 at 13:21 #70293 | |
KymriskaDraken
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" said:" said:You generally are stuck behind something on the Southern :)" said:I distinctly remember passing through commuter stations at speeds in the 40-60mph range for like an hour. It felt like we were stuck behind something." said:I rode the Eurostar back in 1994 or 1995 and I remember it being abysmally slow as we crawled out of the London commuting district. Were those trains scheduled behind locals or was the line speed on the order of 60mph?Up to 100mph for Eurostars. It's probably the track quality that confused you - it feels slower on smooth track. Kev Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 26/03/2015 at 15:05 #70296 | |
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GeoffM
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" said:I distinctly remember passing through commuter stations at speeds in the 40-60mph range for like an hour. It felt like we were stuck behind something.You probably were then. I don't know what the margin was but if you were X minutes late then you lost your slot and had to deal with whatever was on time that should have been behind you but was now in front. SimSig Boss Log in to reply |
| Eurostars on VSE 26/03/2015 at 17:11 #70304 | |
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GW43125
495 posts |
Back to the original question, does anyone have timetables from this period showing workings?
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| Eurostars on VSE 26/03/2015 at 17:36 #70306 | |
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Sacro
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I do!
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