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| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 09/04/2015 at 19:51 #70934 | |
Re620
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Just picked this up on the news. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/09/train-driver-takes-wrong-train-station-first-great-western I'm aware that mistakes are made every day, so this thread is not to point blame at the persons involved! What I'm interested in is what were the circumstances for FGW to choose the option to reverse the train and not i.e. to organize a cab? Where they still close to the station? From a signaling standpoint, does anyone now how it was done? Wrong line running? Bi-di? Thank you for any insight provided. Log in to reply |
| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 09/04/2015 at 19:55 #70935 | |
jc92
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That fails to report that ALL trains involved would be reversing at Banbury, making it easier to mix them up. it sort of sounds otherwise like the driver got up and down mixed up!
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| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 09/04/2015 at 20:18 #70938 | |
Peter Bennet
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Last Saturday things got a bit messy at Glasgow QS. We'd seen the docker over the shoulder of a staff member and knew the train should be off P5 and sure enough it arrived as expected and the Driver etc hoved up for it. Just as we were waiting for the laser display board to confirm everything it all went wrong and started displaying trains from the previous hour as "delayed" and that the train on P5 was for Anniesland - so obviously everyone piled on for that. The driver did not realise it was a glitch and was somewhat bemused and confused as to where his train was going. I explained the error to the driver and also two members of staff who scurried off. I'm not sure if the board was sorted before we left or whether the right passengers got to the right destination - but we did. Peter I identify as half man half biscuit - crumbs! Log in to reply |
| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 09/04/2015 at 20:30 #70939 | |
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JamesN
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There was a London - Swansea, and a Swansea to London service, reversing in adjacent platforms at Banbury. The crew boarded he wrong train at BAN, and set off towards Aynho Jn. At Aynho the signaller offered the opposite route to what the driver was expecting. Train returned to BAN wrong line, no other trains had been signalled up behind so was reasonably routine move to be made. Not a signalled move. Log in to reply |
| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 09/04/2015 at 21:41 #70942 | |
kaiwhara
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" said:There was a London - Swansea, and a Swansea to London service, reversing in adjacent platforms at Banbury. The crew boarded he wrong train at BAN, and set off towards Aynho Jn. At Aynho the signaller offered the opposite route to what the driver was expecting.Such a move here would require a Safe Working Authority to be written out, and protection put in place... Sorry guys, I am in the business of making people wait! Log in to reply |
| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 09/04/2015 at 23:36 #70944 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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Aynho to Banbury wrong line is a long way. Would have caused chaos to attempt that.
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| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 10/04/2015 at 05:43 #70945 | |
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Re620
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" said:Last Saturday things got a bit messy at Glasgow QS. We'd seen the docker over the shoulder of a staff member and knew the train should be off P5 and sure enough it arrived as expected and the Driver etc hoved up for it. Just as we were waiting for the laser display board to confirm everything it all went wrong and started displaying trains from the previous hour as "delayed" and that the train on P5 was for Anniesland - so obviously everyone piled on for that. The driver did not realise it was a glitch and was somewhat bemused and confused as to where his train was going. I explained the error to the driver and also two members of staff who scurried off.I know the situation. Here we still use a lot of split-flap displays. They are usually very reliable, but they don't like cold so much. You can get very funny combinations when they get stuck, i.e. a local train displayed as ending up some hundred miles away in Paris or Berlin. " said: That fails to report that ALL trains involved would be reversing at Banbury, making it easier to mix them up. it sort of sounds otherwise like the driver got up and down mixed up!" said: There was a London - Swansea, and a Swansea to London service, reversing in adjacent platforms at Banbury. The crew boarded he wrong train at BAN, and set off towards Aynho Jn. At Aynho the signaller offered the opposite route to what the driver was expecting.Thank you for your explanation. It makes a lot more sense now, since in a situation like this, a mix up is easily done. Log in to reply |
| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 10/04/2015 at 06:40 #70946 | |
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Al McLean
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Banbury - Ayhno Junction is approx. 5 miles and not easily accessable by road. I can remember when the box was open a Class 08 shunter would deliver water in containers from Banbury. On Monday evening I arrived at Banbury station at 1845 to take some photos - the 1H83 Birmingham Moor St - London Marylebone was being held in Platform 3 and a XC voyager behind it at Banbury North box and northbound services being held as well for the HST to arrive back Im sure the first time they diverted via Banbury the drivers stayed on the same train - last weekend drivers/pilotmen were nearly always waiting at the other end to take the trains back out when the train arrived - seemed to have been working very well until Monday evening! Log in to reply |
| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 10/04/2015 at 11:41 #70951 | |
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casey jones
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Storm out of a tea cup the driver did the right thing change ends return back to Banbury social media blowing things up. When I was a Driver we got wrong routed numerous times even on the correct train Log in to reply |
| FGW driver boardes the wrong train 10/04/2015 at 11:54 #70952 | |
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Stephen Fulcher
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" said:Banbury - Ayhno Junction is approx. 5 miles and not easily accessable by road. I can remember when the box was open a Class 08 shunter would deliver water in containers from Banbury.Its not that bad by road - you can drive along the track for nearly half of it, then theres an access near BS86 which is about half a mile from the end of that lineside track, then another just round the corner from there, then Kings Sutton Station, then another near BS104 signal, then one by the points itself. Its quite good access really compared with other parts of the Chiltern Branch. When I used to maintain the area it was one of our better places for access. Log in to reply |