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Trains not entering after calling up?

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Trains not entering after calling up? 18/06/2015 at 21:42 #73509
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I have had two cases where a train has called up asking for permission to enter from FLT and Purfleet but the train has not then entered the area? I once had this with Shrewsbury sim as well at Coleham Hill.
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Trains not entering after calling up? 18/06/2015 at 22:18 #73510
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Are they subject to any rules?

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Trains not entering after calling up? 19/06/2015 at 15:21 #73518
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Yep. I believe the trains were 6M90 which has a mutually exclusive rule at Purfleet and 4M77 at FLT which has a rule saying the train must enter 75 minutes after 4M77 exits so that may be the cause of that one but I don't know why I received a call if it's not ready. I will find out about the Shrewsbury train a bit later.
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Trains not entering after calling up? 19/06/2015 at 16:38 #73521
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On Shrewsbury the train was 0J01 and that has a rule applied to it as well.
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Trains not entering after calling up? 19/06/2015 at 19:04 #73530
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Suspected this was the case - there's an apparent bug in the interaction between the permission telephone type and that rule (maybe others) reported as #13270.

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Trains not entering after calling up? 20/06/2015 at 10:27 #73544
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On Shrewsbury the train was 0J01 and that has a rule applied to it as well.
Never had a problem with 0J01 entering in Shrewsbury during testing,

Out of interest which one of the 3 calls to enter and not show ??

You could always try deleting the 3 MUTEX rules for 0J01 and see what happens

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Trains not entering after calling up? 20/06/2015 at 10:46 #73546
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OJ01 on Shrewsbury didn't enter for me either. It was OOJ012 Coleham entry.
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Trains not entering after calling up? 20/06/2015 at 11:01 #73547
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Is there a mistake in the rules for 0J01? Looking at the timetable, as far as I can tell the 'intended' sequence is for 0J012 to enter at Coleham and go to Abbey Foregate, at which point either 0J013 or 0J014 returns to Coleham. However, as the rules are set up, only one of 0J012, 0J013 or 0J014 will ever enter. This creates a further error, as 0J013 and 0J014 are only allowed to enter after 0J012 leaves the area.

Removing the two Mutually Exclusive rules applicable to 0J012 allows it to enter.

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Trains not entering after calling up? 20/06/2015 at 11:41 #73549
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Is there a mistake in the rules for 0J01? Looking at the timetable, as far as I can tell the 'intended' sequence is for 0J012 to enter at Coleham and go to Abbey Foregate, at which point either 0J013 or 0J014 returns to Coleham. However, as the rules are set up, only one of 0J012, 0J013 or 0J014 will ever enter. This creates a further error, as 0J013 and 0J014 are only allowed to enter after 0J012 leaves the area.

Removing the two Mutually Exclusive rules applicable to 0J012 allows it to enter.
Was thinking that myself just remove all the MUTEXs for 0J01 - tbh I think the MUTEX rules were in for a test and never got deleted :doh

Nearly got the intended sequence - 0J012 enters Coleham - (should be typed as a pair of 37/97s) splits off sim in Abbey Foregate then 0J013 comes back followed by 0J014 a little later.

Sorted and passed onto Karl for next update to sim

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Trains not entering after calling up? 09/09/2015 at 19:59 #75760
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Bump this up again, I am also waiting for 6M90 to appear at Purfleet and its a No Show... Any update on this please?
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Trains not entering after calling up? 09/09/2015 at 21:12 #75762
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Bump this up again, I am also waiting for 6M90 to appear at Purfleet and its a No Show... Any update on this please?
I'm actually playing LTS right now - 6M90 was warned on but then I received a message '6M90 has been cancelled before entering your area'.

There are some rules about different versions of 6M90 being mutually exclusive, but I don't know enough about the timetable system to tell if there is a conflict or not.

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