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| Edge Hill TT locations 15/02/2016 at 19:26 #80698 | |
Steamer
3986 posts |
While writing a new timetable for Edge Hill, I've come across the following TT locations that don't appear to correspond to a location on the panel: Carterhouse Jn S.B.- no such box on the panel, according to Quail there's a UWC of the same name between Fiddler's Ferry and Ditton, but it's not included in the simulation Ditton CE Sidings Ditton Widnes Innovis Edge Hill Engine Shed Junction- no reference in Quail Garston Auto Compound- same location as Garston Car Terminal? Monks Sidings, as opposed to Monks Sidings S.B? Wavertree Great Northern Yard Wavertree PCD There also doesn't appear to be a location for the sidings marked as 'Down Siding' at Garston. On a separate note, following is the original Lime Street simulation now obsolete and no longer maintained, or will it also be updated at some point? I'm going to update the Wiki so that each manual references the other, but I'd like to know what the situation is before doing so. "Don't stress/ relax/ let life roll off your backs./ Except for death and paying taxes/ everything in life.../ is only for now." (Avenue Q) Log in to reply The following user said thank you: KymriskaDraken |
| Edge Hill TT locations 15/02/2016 at 20:09 #80699 | |
jc92
3690 posts |
Carterhouse Jcn. A box between ditton and Fiddlers which allowed access to a stone terminal and ICI sidings with workings daily from Earles sdgs and Tunstead in the 90s. Closed officially circa 2005. Ditton CE sdgs. On the up line south of Ditton stn was the access to these sidings. Closed mid 90s. Wavertree PCD and GN yard. Accessed from the allerton end of Edge Hill sdgs. Now under a different name. But still there. "We don't stop camborne wednesdays" Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |
| Edge Hill TT locations 17/02/2016 at 10:14 #80726 | |
kbarber
1743 posts |
Engine Shed Junction long since gone, I suspect, hence no entry in Quail; I 'visited' once or twice way back in 1978. Imagine that Wavertree Jc has a double track continuing into the CMD (so an additional track below the Thro Siding and the existing down slow connected where there's a stop block). That double Thro Siding was named the Up and Down Circular Goods lines; they then swing round in a right-handed U-turn (as seen approaching from the south), passing over the Up & Down Main as they do (in reality they turn through a right angle - remember that, geographically, the lines from Allerton have entered running vertically downwards). Then imagine the (country end) Siding 1 and Siding 2 extended as a double track, passing over the Up & Down Main to join the Circular Goods lines somewhere between the Main and Chat Moss lines. Where they join is Engine Shed Junction. The Circular Goods lines then do a left-handed U-turn (this time it is 180 degrees) over the Chat Moss and Bootle lines, before joining with the country-end Tuebrook/Waterloo Sidings. Originally, there was a continuation of these in a separate tunnel that led down to Waterloo Docks. This plan https://www.flickr.com/photos/janfordsworld/9016436263/ might help understand. Edge Hill Station is at H and I'd guess the present Edge Hill PSB is between Edge Hill No. 2 (M) and Picton Road Bridge (AY). Engine Shed Junction is at AE with AM being the Circular Goods lines, with Tuebrook Sidings way back at AH. Not sure how much that helps... I really can't see how it would relate to anything on the present diagram. Unless that description is still used for Sidings 1 and 2 at Edge Hill Depot - a look at Google Maps still shows 2 lines climbing across the main lines towards where it would have been, although they look very out of use on the Google Earth image. Log in to reply The following user said thank you: Steamer |